I have to chime in here on both sides of the issue: yes, everything is
political (more specifically, rhetorical) and yes, we do have a
responsibility to teach the "correct" line; i.e., do not kill or steal, etc.
And we are not required to give equal time to opposing positions,
say "to tell both sides of the story." In teaching journalism, a student
piped up, "aren't we supposed to be objective?" when a colleague of mine
suggested choosing quotes from interviews to give reaction, rather than
editorializing. Try implementing the "fairness doctrine" (now abandoned by
the FCC) in a case like NAACP vs. Neo nazis. It would be irresponsible to
give the nazis the same attention or opportunity to tell the big lie in
response to the presumably respectable, truthful (we hope) NAACP
spokesperson. Perhaps not the best example, but you get my gist, eh?
-Tc
Anthony R. S. Chiaviello, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Professional Writing
Department of English
University of Houston-Downtown
One Main Street
Houston, TX 77002-0001
713.221.8520 / 713.868.3979
"Question Reality"
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> From: Steven Bissell[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:53 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fact or fiction
>
> Perhaps you need to take a look at what "politicization" means. If you
> think politicization about the environment is correct, how can you object
> to views such as Stossel et al? Which political view is correct in the
> classroom? For that matter how about politicization that racism,
> homophobia, etc. are "correct"? You are simply saying that politicization
> as long as it agrees with your politics is correct, if it doesn't, it is
> incorrect.
>
> Steven
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jeri Pollock
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fact or fiction
>
>
> "This is a great discovery: education is political! When a teacher
> discovers that he or she is a politician, the teacher has to ask, "What
> kind of politics am I doing in the classroom? That is, in favor of what am
> I being a teacher?" Paulo Freire.
>
>
> You mean that you don't help your students understand that racism,
> homophobia, etc. are wrong?????????? Why is politicizing students about
> the environment so different?
>
> jeri
>
>
> "I pledge allegiance to the Earth
> and all the life which it supports,
> one planet in our care,
> irreplaceable,
> with sustenance and respect for all."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Steven Bissell
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fact or fiction
>
>
> Well, even if it is true, so what? Comparing what Nike pays
> Tiger Woods as a celebrity promotion and what they pay workers is
> nonsense. I make more money as a college teacher in the US than a coffee
> bean picker in Brazil. Do you think coffee bean pickers, or Indonesian
> workers, should get paid what I do let alone what Tiger Woods is paid? If
> you want to make meaningful comparisons, find out what US Nike workers (if
> there are any left) make and compare that to Indonesian workers and make
> sure to adjust your figures to the standard of living for each country.
> For heavens sake don't just present "Tiger Woods is paid this, Indonesian
> workers are paid that" as a lesson in global economics.
>
> By the way, what has this to do with Environmental
> Education? Sounds as if you are politicizing your students, which is
> exactly what Stossel and his ilk accuse EE educators of doing. I said
> below "I have seen examples of educators misleading students in EE
> programs, but I have found this to be the exception, not the rule." I hope
> you aren't the exception.
>
> Steven
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of emma fieldhouse
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Fact or fiction
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
> Hope you are all well... I heard an interesting
> piece of information and was wondering if anyone could confirm that it is
> true or false? Apparently, Nike pay Tiger Woods more money than their
> 14,000 Indonesian workers put together?
>
> I just wanted to check this out before I start
> "indoctrinating" my students!!! But I thought it was quite a good way of
> highlighting first world/third world inequality...
>
> Sorry to spout boring details if this is old news!!!
>
> Ciao
>
> Emma F
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Steven Bissell
> >Reply-To: "Discussion forum for environmental
> ethics."
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: EE and environmental education
> >Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:02:20 -0600
> >
> >This is very familiar to me. I don't know this
> Stossel, but here in Denver
> >we had a "reporter" (sic) who made an independent
> judgment that
> >environmental education was "indoctrination" and
> proceeded to write a series
> >of articles about it. During this entire period he
> failed to contact anyone
> >in the environmental education community, in fact
> he was specifically
> >invited to attend a yearly meeting of environmental
> educators and he didn't
> >show up, but he did write about the meeting! A
> couple of years ago there was
> >an "independent" study of EE materials by a group
> in DC funded by a group of
> >conservative/industry organizations. They concluded
> that EE materials were
> >not based on "science" but when asked for examples
> they could only point out
> >some stuff produced by private organizations and
> not widely used in public
> >EE programs.
> >
> >I have seen examples of educators misleading
> students in EE programs, but I
> >have found this to be the exception, not the rule.
> >
> >If 20/20 runs this, it will be the first network
> attack on EE to my
> >knowledge. Not good.
> >Steven
> >
> > "Our human ecology is that of a rare species of
> mammal in a social,
> >omnivorous niche. Our demography is one of a
> slow-breeding, large,
> >intelligent primate. To shatter our population
> structure, to become abundant
> >in the way of rodents, not only destroys our
> ecological relations with the
> >rest of nature, it sets the stage for our mass
> insanity."
> > Paul Shepard
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Lisa Dangutis
> >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:21 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: EE and environmental education
> >
> >
> > I was appalled at this article.
> >
> >
> > TOMPAINE.com:
> >MORE UNDERHANDED REPORTING FROM ABC NEWS
>
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