JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for CARIBBEAN-STUDIES Archives


CARIBBEAN-STUDIES Archives

CARIBBEAN-STUDIES Archives


CARIBBEAN-STUDIES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

CARIBBEAN-STUDIES Home

CARIBBEAN-STUDIES Home

CARIBBEAN-STUDIES  2001

CARIBBEAN-STUDIES 2001

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

re. Cuba

From:

cerlac2 <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

cerlac2 <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:34:28 -0500

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (148 lines)

This ironic US allegation (considering the 40 years of terrorism waged
by the US on Cuba, including biological warfare in the form of
livestock and crop diseases) just illustrates again the hypocrisy of
current US policy and action and the associated abuse of the concept
of "terrorism" for political ends.

Cuba's support for insurrectionary movements in Central America during
the 1980s (against brutal US-supported dictatorships) and its
involvement in struggles in Africa (e.g. Angola's war of resistance
against South African aggression - this aggression being again with US
support) are the probable historical grounds for this accusation.
(Interestingly, in terms of the terrorism in 1980's Central America,
only the US was convicted by the International Court of Justice for
the "unlawful use of force" - i.e. terrorism - in its waging of proxy
war against Nicaragua, which deliberately focussed on "soft targets"
[schools, hospitals and the like].)  Again, who or what action is
labelled "terrorist" is a matter of political expediency.

The inclusion of Cuba on the current US list has been contested by
various informed commentators. I paste an article below by Cubanist
Wayne Smith. Some other examples:

Keeping Things in Perspective - Is Cuba a terrorist nation
http://www.ciponline.org.nxlkhost.com/cuba/main/perspectiveonterrorism.htm

Baltimore Sun April 24, 2001 New Book on NSA Sheds Light on Secrets -
U.S. Terror Plan Called Cuba Invasion Pretext, By Scott Shane and Tom.
Bowman, Sun Staff
http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.md.nsa24apr24.story

There have also been many statements issued by the Cuban government
regarding its position on terrorism and its concerns regarding current
US actions and rhetoric. For example, see the item listed on this
page:
http://sundial.ccs.yorku.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0110&L=lacyork&F=&S=&P=448
Many other items on Cuba and the US "war on terrorism" can be found in
the archives of the CERLAC listserv:
http://listserv.yorku.ca/archives/lacyork.html

No Evidence That Cuba is a "Terrorist Nation"   By Wayne S. Smith

 Why, one wonders, is Cuba still on the list of  terrorist states? We
don't like its system of  government and have many other
disagreements  with it,  but a terrorist state it isn't. Perhaps one
could  argue that   it was in the past. Perhaps. But not now.

 On the basis of what evidence does the State  Department include it
on the list? Well, first of all,  the State Department says Cuba
harbors Basque  terrorists. But if that were so, surely the Spanish
government would be concerned as well. In fact,  however, these few
aging Basques are living peacefully  in Cuba as the result of an
agreement between the  Spanish and Cuban governments, one requested
under  former Prime Minister Felipe Gonzalez and for which  the
Spanish government has   expressed appreciation to  the Cuban. Madrid
had rather have these particular  Basques living in Cuba. And they are
not involved in activities against Spain. Clearly, then, no grounds
for the terrorist label here.

 Second, the State Department complains that Cuba has  contacts with
the various guerrilla groups in  Colombia. But many governments,
including the  Venezuelan - and the Colombian itself, have contacts
with those groups. Nothing necessarily sinister in  that. What is of
importance is that there is no  evidence that Cuba is inciting the
guerrillas in Colombia to violence or supplying them with arms. On
the contrary, the State Department complains that Cuba  has
facilitated meetings, i.e., peace talks, between  the guerrillas and
the government. But shouldn't that  merit applause rather than a place
on the list of  terrorist   states? In fact, isn't the U.S. itself
interested in fostering such contacts?

 And finally, the Department complains that Cuba is  harboring a
number of fugitives from U.S. justice.  True, there are a handful of
such fugitives on the  island. But as Cuban officials point out, there
is no   extradition treaty between the two nations. If the  U.S. wants
these fugitives back, the best way to  proceed would be to negotiate
such a treaty, something  the U.S. has not done. And meanwhile, there
is no evidence that the fugitives are involved in activities  against
the U.S., or, for that matter, activities  against anyone. They are
simply living in Cuba. That  hardly seems sufficient grounds to label
Cuba "a   terrorist state."

 In fact, none of the evidence is in the least  convincing. If this is
all the State Department can  come up with, Cuba should be removed
from the list of  rogue states immediately. That of course would
cause  howls of rage among the right-wing exiles in Miami,  and no one
in the State Department or the  Administration itself has shown any
willingness to stand up to that tiny but strident special interest
group. It should be noted, however, that there are  possible unwanted
consequences to keeping Cuba on the  list. In June, for example, there
were reports of Chinese shipments of arms and explosives to Cuba. At
first the Administration seemed to regard the reports  as a low-key
bargaining chip that might be used  against China at no cost to the
U.S. Thus, in hearings  on June 11 before the House Foreign Affairs
Committee,  the Assistant Secretary of State for Asia seemed to
confirm the reports and said Washington "was very  concerned with this
PLA [Peoples Liberation Army]  cooperation and movement of military
equipment to  Cuba."

 Almost too late, someone in the Administration  recalled that under a
1996 amendment to the 1962  Foreign Assistance Act, the U.S. is
required to impose  a trade embargo against any country which
provides  military equipment, however ordinary andconventional,  to
any state on the list of terrorist nations.

 Obviously, the Bush Administration has no wish to  sever our trade
relations with China - and certainly  not over so petty an issue. It
quickly backtracked and  announced that it had no evidence "that
China   had  transferred lethal military equipment to Cuba."

 It was helped by a Chinese statement categorically  denying that any
military shipments at all had been  made to Cuba. But China reserves
the right to provide  small arms to Cuba. So does Russia, which at
some point might well provide replacements for certain of  the aging
weapons it gave to Cuba years ago. Should  there be transfers of
weapons which would in any way  threaten the U.S., Washington would
and should take issue. But if, as is likely, we were dealing with
shipments of small arms, it would most decidedly not  be in the
interest of the U.S. to break trade  relations with the shipper. Which
simply points up the fact that foolish practices such as keeping Cuba
on  the list of terrorist states do have a cost.

Wayne S. Smith is a Senior Fellow at the Center for  International
Policy in Washington, D.C. and a  long-time expert on Cuba

I hope this is useful.

- Marshall Beck  Admin Assistant, CERLAC



Joy Moncrieffe wrote:

  Dear All:

  I was surprised to hear the US Sec. of Defense claim
  that Cuba has been known to harbour terrorists.  Does
  anyone know the basis for this? Given the US' desire
  to expand its campaign to all countries that are on
  its `terrorist' list (though the rest of the coalition
  is unlikely to agree), there could be serious
  consequences for Cuba and implications for the region.
   Anyone care to comment?  Of course, you may have
  discussed this already...I have not been able to read
  all the recent commentary.

  Regards,
  Joy

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager