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Re: File size: Atlas.ti and NVivo compared

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Linda Cusworth <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:33:15 +0000 (GMT)

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glad to see someone mentioning WinMAX.  I have used this 
for a large number of interviews, and had no problems.
Linda
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:40:33 +0000 alewins 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 
> In response to Oliver msg regarding a big team project (and Deans
> subsequent)
> To be fair to NVivo there are all sorts of factors which will vary the speed
> of software - insufficient hardware specs - processor speed - RAM etc etc;
> could have been  factors in Deans case.
> 
> The additional concern of course in the team environment is...are  you all
> working with big fast computers: if hardware is marginal for some of you,
> then think a bit.
> 
> But Dean is right, any CAQDAS software that handles plain text  (like N4 or
> ATLAS.ti) will probably perform certain tasks quicker.
> 
> Licensed users of Nvivo should take advantage of the  update of Nvivo to
> Version to 1.2 ; it is said to address some of the speed issues - but always
> aim to have a better set of hardware specs than the minimum recommended.
> 
> Other things to consider in the team environment: You cannot merge the team
> members projects into one big project  in Nvivo; - you can with Atlas and
> Nudist (and Winmax)
> 
> Printed files with margin coding displays (in either Atlas or Nvivo) will
> enable visual comparisons of coding application if team members have
> experimented with coding the same files, separately.
> The limited code stripe information that you an get out of Nudist will do a
> similar task, but not so elegantly or completely.
> 
> Coder reliability in Nudist 4. : by chance, Silvain Bourdon  recently gave
> an interesting paper  at the recent Strategies of Social research Conference
> in London (held by the Institute of Education) describing a process he has
> invented using a combination of command files, providing very exact measures
> of coder reliability - but this only works in Nudist (no command files with
> Nvivo).
> 
> Currently for Oliver  - if  the ability to edit the files is his most
> important requirement then Nvivo may swing it... (but you can also edit
> files although not as easily or prettily, in Nudist).  You can always
> experiment with speed of functions, with importing large quantities of your
> own data into the demo version (of Nvivo) before shelling out on the real
> one.
> 
> Another consideration in the team environment is coding schema structure -
> sometimes teams have to make more pragmatic deals up front about coding
> schema - make sure the software you choose helps  you  maintain your agreed
> framework or make protocols up front which help you  all to stay within (and
> communicate easily about) these  agreed structures - yet have the freedom to
> 'discover' and code freely as well.
> 
> cheers
> Ann Lewins
> 
> 
> CAQDAS Networking Project:  http://www.soc.surrey.ac.uk/caqdas/
> Dept of Sociology
> University of Surrey
> GUILDFORD   GU2 5XH
> +44 (0)1 483 25 94 55
> mobile  +44 (0) 7966 541 518
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ann Lewins
> CAQDAS Networking Project:  http://www.soc.surrey.ac.uk/caqdas/
> Dept of Sociology
> University of Surrey
> GUILDFORD   GU2 5XH
> +44 (0)1 483 25 94 55
> mobile  +44 (0) 7966 541 518
> 
> Ann Lewins
> Qualitative Data Analysis in Social Research and Management:
> Software Training
> [log in to unmask]
> mobile:+44 (0) 7966 541 518
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dean Bartlett <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: File size: Atlas.ti and NVivo compared
> 
> 
> > Dear Oliver,
> >
> > I have tried using NVivo with large numbers of interviews
> > and, basically, it doesn't work. I had to revert to N4 due
> > to the length of time it took to execute each command
> > (several minutes every time you click the mouse button!). I
> > think NVivo is only suitable for handling a small no of
> > interviews - I dont' think it is the file size per se,
> > however, that is the problem, although I don't pretend to
> > understand the internal mechanics of the software. My
> > advice would be to use N4.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Dean Bartlett.
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:58:47 +0100 Oliver Treib
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear list members,
> > >
> > > we are a group of four researchers planning to analyze quite a large
> number
> > > of expert interviews (around 200 interviews, each with a length of about
> 30
> > > pages) with the help of a qualitative software package. Important
> features
> > > for us include
> > >
> > > * teamwork compatibility (i.e. easy traceability of codings etc. done by
> > > different team members)
> > > * editing text without invalidating previous coding
> > > * quantitative data analysis (that feature does not have to be too
> > > sophisticated, but things like "how often does this or that coding
> appear
> > > in the interviews or in certain subgroups thereof?" should be possible)
> > > * rich text formatting (incl. importing rtf files from word processors)
> > > (would be nice, is, however, not essential)
> > >
> > > From the range of available software packages, NVivo and Atlas.ti seem
> to
> > > be the most appropriate packages for the purpose of our research. As I
> > > understand it, Atlas seems to have a slight advantage in quantitative
> > > analysis, while only NVivo provides the possibility to edit text without
> > > invalidating previous coding and has the additional feature of rich text
> > > formatting. Therefore, we currently tend towards buying NVivo.
> > >
> > > What I am wondering about, however, is the question of file size. If I
> > > understand it correctly, in Atlas you do not import the text to be
> analyzed
> > > into the project file but leave it in a txt file and store it
> decentrally.
> > > This should keep the file size of the main project file quite small. In
> > > NVivo, however, the text has to be imported and stored in the project
> file
> > > together with all the codings, notes etc. I expect this to increase file
> > > size to a considerable degree, which might make data portability and
> safety
> > > copying problematic and could possibly also end up in program
> instability.
> > >
> > > Does anybody working with either of the two packages (or any other
> package
> > > providing the features mentioned above) have an idea how big a file for
> our
> > > 200 interviews would become? Any comments would be very helpful.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Oliver Treib
> > >
> > >
> > > ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
> > > Oliver Treib
> > > Max Planck Institute for the Study of Societies, Cologne
> > > mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > > http://www.mpi-fg-koeln.mpg.de/people/ot/
> > > ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
> > >
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > Dr. Dean Bartlett.
> > Deputy Director,
> > Management Research Centre,
> > The Business School
> > University of North London.
> >
> > Tel:    0171 973 4825 (direct line)
> > E-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
> 
> 

*********************************************************
Linda Cusworth
Research Assistant
Graduate Employability Project
Centre for Higher Education and Access Development (HEAD)
The Learning Centre
University of North London
236-250 Holloway Road
London
N7 6PP

Tel 020 7973 4877
Fax 020 7753 5012
Email [log in to unmask]
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