My impression is that Clare died on the 11th and was buried on the 12th and
that her burial date was the one chosen. While this doesn't explain why the
day of her birth into heaven was not chosen for the feast, at least it gives
the feast a convenient peg to hang on.
Thomas Sullivan, OSB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Metheny [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:23 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: FEAST 11 August
>
> Apologies for belated reply to your question, but accessing notes and
> archival material from the Consilium's deliberations takes a bit of doing,
> and one is not always successful. So I asked a friend who has a contact
> with access to find out what he could on your question and FWIW he has
> sent along a reply that it was a simple matter of moving it back one day
> to the date of her death, always the first choice --though often not the
> final one-- for assigning a feast date to any saint. If that's correct,
> then it raises an obvious question of when/how/why it moved forward a day
> to 12 August? Had a look at the usual suspects, but the _inventio_
> (finding of body/opening tomb) is 23 Sept, first _translatio_ is 3 Oct,
> solemn _translatio_ is 29 Sept, so none of these are to blame. Perhaps
> some conflict on 11 August in universal or particular calendar? Was there
> debate or uncertainty about the date of her death at some point? Vivario
> had some thoughts to share on this as well; perhaps they will shed some
> more light on the matter.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Wickstrom <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:55 PM
> Subject: RE: FEAST 11 August
>
> As so often happens these days, the culprit is not Carolyn, but
> Vatican II, which moved Clare from her venerable day on August 12 to the
> day before. Carolyn is using, properly for this list, a source that uses
> pre-Vat. II calendars. So _my_ question, as in other instances is...does
> any learned member of the list know why Martimort et al decided to move
> Poor Clare?
> jw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Thomas Renna
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:39 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: FEAST 11 August
>
>
> Folks, you missed the greatest saint of August 11: Clare of
> Assisi.
>
> Since Clare is the second patron of Italy, after St Francis,
> we Italians may be slow in forgiving you.
>
> Tommaso Renna
>
> All is forgiven if you can name the third patron saint of
> Italia. Hint: also a woman.
>
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