[log in to unmask] writes:
>I think that at this point I may abandon this discussion, as it is
>becoming
>increasingly circular. In my experience most of the pwd and families
>supporting them are not particularly interested in the philosophical
>aspects
>and naval gazing that comes with it.
No? I get really tired of being told that there is an unbridgeable rift
between the experience of real pwds (and their families), and "the
philosophical aspects and navel gazing" that characterize this kind of
discussion. Claiming experience like this is not a very useful way to
dismiss a discussion which isn't answering your questions the way you want
them answered. My comments are rooted in my own experience of disability,
and the need to assert my rights and claim disability in specific ways, in
specific contexts, to get my needs and rights respected. Negotiating
definitions, language, and social structures is part of disability
experience for many, many, people. I'm at graduate school, investigating
disability in an interdisciplinary context, and this is also part of my
experience. This is a research list, and this thread is still discussing
disability research. You may not be interested in discussing the politics
of definition and identification or in any of my comments but they were at
least a polite response to your questions, and I think the tone of your
own response to me is entirely uncalled for.
>They are too stretched and exhausted
>from the physical and emotional overload in their life, and look at the
>community, or our government representing the community for help. they
>really don't give a damn whether this is by right or out of charity, as
>long
>as the help meets their needs.
What we're talking about is how people get "help," or services( or equity,
or recognition of rights, obligations, and other aspects of citizenship).
>
>So far this discussion has produced a lot of hot air, but no answers to my
>questions.
>
>au revoir, John
bye.
I'm still interested in finding the new version of the ICIDH; does anyone
have a citation? David?!
I'll be away til the middle of next week; I'll be interested to see where
this discussion has gone by then.
regards,
Kate
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