I totally agree with the sentiments expressed by both Andrew and Martin
here. I am sick to death of this idea that nurses are somehow there just to
make up the numbers - I think there are one or two amongst us who would very
much like to completely cut out nurses from A&E and trauma care leaving
paramedics dealing pre-hospital and medics dealing with the patient
in-hospital.
There have been one or two threads over the last few months which have
really annoyed me as denigrating A&E nurses and this one seems to be in
danger of heading down that route [as exemplified by the rather crass point
of view represented by the comments that Mike Bjarkoy came out with...]
... surely if A&E can't function as a truly MDT then where can?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martyn Hodson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: Rapid C-spine clearance
> I agree totally with Andrew on that, I am very concerned by Mike's
> comments - we are just getting rid of 'Yes it's a team but some of
> us are more equal' attitude from some medical staff lets bury it
> completely.
>
> "It's a Doctor's job" is the one thing i hate to hear - if there's a good
> reason that can be backed up why it's a doctors job - fine , but
> when you here it applied to things such as IV cannulation (outside
> A+E + crit care ) you can see why it's the best way to set a
> nurse's blood boiling .
>
> The best comment I have ever heard from anyone on the subject of
> Doctors and Nurses working together is from a friend of mine who
> is in the last few days of his PRHO year.
>
> " Ok i've been to med school, but i move on every six months,
> most nurses know their speciality "
>
> Martyn
>
> Student Nurse
> and VAS person
>
> Date sent: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:02:05 +0100
> Subject: Re: Rapid C-spine clearance
> From: Andrew G Hobart <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Send reply to: [log in to unmask]
>
> > Michael Bjarkoy wrote:
> >
> > > I would have a problem with nurses
> > > performing the clincial c-spine clearance. Once the ambulance staff
> > > have decided there is a need to place the patient onto the board
> > > based on their protocols, it is the doc who should perfrom the
> > > clinical rule out of C-spine injury and take legal responsibility
> > > for such an action.
> >
> > I am afraid that I have greater confidence in my nursing colleagues
> > than does Mike. I have no problem with properly trained nursing staff
> > clearing the C-Spine clinically and I can recall a paper in one of the
> > Journals reporting the success of such a scheme.
> >
> > We need to break down the barriers between the nursing profession and
> > the medical profession by getting rid of thes silly rules about "only
> > a doctor can do that".
> >
> > --
> > Andrew
> > _______________________________________________________
> > Andrew Hobart FRCS FFAEM
> > Birmingham
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Martyn Hodson,
> Adv. Dip. Nursing Studies Student Sheffield Uni
> BAEMT-FR, VAS First Responder, AED Operator
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