For ease of differentiation between the posts, my reply is in capital
letters. The only reason I reply is to make one more effort to alert the
design community that research is not that simple, just as design is not
that simple as laymen think. (Hey, design a house for me, it would not take
you more than a couple of hours! And it will be fun for you, you can do it
quickly, you know. I will buy you a bottle of whiskey.)
At 10:20 AM 10/12/2000 +0300, Kari-Hans Kommonen wrote:
>However, I believe that it is most important for a discipline of design to
>have research that takes advantage of, or even more so, relies on the
>unique characteristics of design activity. Designers need research that
>take their discipline forward. They can also benefit of research that looks
>at it from the outside, just like writers or legislators may benefit from
>such. NOBODY OBJECTS THAT, AND EVEN THE THE FOLLOWING....
I think designers have to apply their own unique
>ways of working, things like intuition and personal judgement etc. and
>craft their own, often personally defined ways of doing research. I AM
INTERESTED HOW YOU WILL INVENT THIS NEW WAY. I DO NOT SAY IT IS NOT
POSSIBLE OR IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE -- I JUST WANT TO SEE IT AND WILL
CONGRATULATE YOU AFTERWARDS.
>I think that designers should not be required to get another degree in
>something else to qualify in research in their own field. THEY SHOULD NOT,
BUT IF THEY WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB, THEY NEED TO. JUST LIKE SOCIOLOGISTS
SPECIALIZE A COUPLE OF DECADES BEFORE THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING GOOD
RESEARCH. RESEARCH IS NOT THAT EASY.
> A lot of pioneering work has to
>be done. Pioneers always get hurt. I DON'T SEE PIONEERS, JUST DILETANTS,
NO MATTER WHAT PARADIGMATIC CRITERIA ARE APPLIED.
>So, I personally think that design and research go together very well.
THEY DO AS SEPARATE, BUT WELL COORDINATED ACTIVITIES.
>dichotomy. Design research also has to be designed. It is one of those
>wicked problems... THAT IS TRUE. GOOD POINT. BUT DESIGNING RESEARCH IS
VERY DIFFERENT FROM PRODUCT DESIGN!
>cheers, Kari-Hans Kommonen
>At 18:28 +0300 10.10.2000, Rosan Chow wrote:
>>"Lubomir S. Popov" wrote:
>>> The discussions on the phd-design list might go out of focus and most of
>>> the participants display design (not research) thinking, but even so, this
>>> list is much more research-oriented than any other design-related list.
>>Members of the list, please spare me a moment:
>>What Lubomir wrote (as quoted above) triggered me to ask:
>>Is Design NECESSARILY dichotomous to 'Research'?
>>Members who are into discourse analysis may help me here, probably.
>>Thanks in advance.
>Kari-Hans Kommonen, Future Media Home research
>Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki UIAH
>Hämeentie 135 C, 00560 HELSINKI, Finland
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