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MEDLIB-L October 7-11, 2000
Contents:
1. ?: UK Information [Q for hospitals and nursing schools]
2. MeSH 2001 publications to be available
3. [Article] Medical Research and the Internet
4. Re: European availability of/equivalent to AMITRIPTYLINE [summary]
5. ?: Foreign Language Patient Education Materials [Q and 4 answers]
6. National Medical Librarians Month
7. Re: Summary EBSCO Databases
8. [article] How to Find Anything Online - webreview.com FYI [with one
comment]
9. MEDLINE Instructions in Russian [reprise from previous MEDLIB-L
digest]
10. thanks:?Language barrier and basics in searching MEDLINE [see previous
MEDLIB-L digest]
11. ?: Re: Need info on homeopathic drug [see previous MEDLIB-L digest ]
12. Funny MeSH and Don't Explode [long]
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:45:57 -0400
From: York County Hospital <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: UK Information
One of our VP's will be visiting England in November and has asked me to
get him some information for this trip.
He wants to know phone numbers and addresses for the Schools of Nursing;
phone numbers and addresses for hospitals in the following cities: London,
Manchester, Liverpool, Wales. If anyone can help with this it would be
greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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katherine dedrick
health sciences resource center
york county hospital
newmarket, ontario, canada
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fax 905-830-5989
http://www.ych.on.ca
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:59:20 -0400
From: Joanne Jahr <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: MeSH 2001 publications to be available
The 2001 MeSH publications will be available for ordering after November
1,
2000.
Ordering information can be found at:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/mesh/pubs.html.
Joanne Jahr, MLS
Network Programs Coordinator
NN/LM Middle Atlantic Region
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(212) 822-7352
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:39:52 -0500
From: Nancy Reynolds <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Medical Research and the Internet article
Please excuse cross posting to MEDLIB-L and NNLMSCR listservs.
The current online issue of Internet Health Care at
http://www.internethealthcaremag.com/html/current/100100_3.htm has an
article entitled, "Online Odyssey: Medical Research and the Internet" in
which Tom Craig, Assistant Director of Library Services at the Watson W.
Wise Medical Research Library at the University of Texas Health Center in
Tyler, Texas, is quoted.
Nancy
Nancy Reynolds
Library Director
Texas Medical Association Library
401 W. 15th Street
Austin, TX 78701-1680
(512) 370-1540; fax (512) 370-1634
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:58:25 0500
From: "Hernandez-Kurtulus, Susana RICVAMC"
<[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: European availability of/equivalent to AMITRIPTYLINE
Here is a compilation of the replies received, so far:
1. MARTINDALE in print, Intranet or Internet but one has to be a
subscriber.
2. Internet Drug Index from the USA
www.rxlist.com
3. Farmacos en el Mundo/Pharmaceutical Care in Barcelona currently
provides links to 37 databases in 17 countries including BIAM (see 4,
below) www.farmclin.com/farmclin/datamed.htm
4. BIAM (Banque de Donnes Automatise sur les Medicaments) in
France --
http://www2.biam2.org/
ON Friday, I was able to e-mail info from Martindale and the
www.rxlist.com
website address to the patron; today, I forwarded the other website
info.
Thank you everyone for your prompt reply and support.
> ----------
> From: Hernandez-Kurtulus, Susana RICVAMC
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: European availability of/equivalent to AMITRIPTYLINE
>
> Is AMITRIPTYLINE (a tricyclic antidepressant) available in Europe?
> What is its name? Who manufactures it?
>
> Is there a database where I could have looked up the information?
>
> Susana Hernandez-Kurtulus
> Librarian
> 142D Vet. Adm. Medical Center
> 1201 Broad Rock Blvd.
> Richmond, VA 23249
> Phone: 804/675-5000 x3223
> Fax: 804/675-5252
> [log in to unmask]
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:01:16 -0400
From: "Schaap, Ann L." <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Foreign Language Patient Education Materials
One of our nursing administrators would like us to provide her with a list
of websites that provide patient education materials in foreign languages
(any languages are fine). Can anyone recommend sites?
Ann L. Schaap
Medical Librarian
Norton Healthcare Medical Library
PO Box 35070
Louisville, KY 40232
Phone (502) 629-8127 Fax (502) 629-8138
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:36:43 -0400
From: Valerie Rankow <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Foreign Language Patient Education Materials
Hello Ann,
Ask NOAH, MedlinePlus and NIDUS Well Connected excellent sites provide
patient
information in English and Spanish:
Ask NOAH
http://www.noah.cuny.edu/
MEDLINE Plus
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/
Well-Connected (NIDUS)
http://www.well-connected.com/
and http://www.noah.cuny.edu/providers/wellconn.html
In addition, visit:
Cancer Resources in Languages other than English
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/child-health/guides/clinks13.htm
Consumer Action - Multilingual Library of Consumer Information
http://www.consumer-action.org/
CulturedMed^ (with links for transcultural nursing)
http://www.sunyit.edu/library/html/culturedmed/
Transcultural and Multicultural Health Links
http://www.lib.iun.indiana.edu/trannurs.htm#top
Translated Health Education Materials
http://www.healthtrans.org/cgi-bin/doc_user.exe
I also recommend that you search the MEDLIB-L Archives, since this comes
up every now and again:
http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/medlib-l.html
Regards,
Valerie
Coordinator, MEDLIB-L
Valerie G. Rankow, MLS
Professional Information Services
Research, Writing & Consultation
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What do you want to know? Just ask...
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:54:26 -0300
From: Martha M. Silveira <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Foreign Language Patient Education Materials
Some information in Portuguese:
http://www.saude.gov.br/
Programas e Projetos
Martha Silveira
Rede Sarah de Hospitais do Aparelho Locomotor
Salvador, Bahia
Brazil
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:06:29 -0700
From: Ravensara Travillian <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Foreign Language Patient Education Materials
Ethnomed at the University of Washington has links to patient education
materials on various topics in several languages at the following sites:
http://healthlinks.washington.edu/clinical/ethnomed/h_pat_educ.html
http://healthlinks.washington.edu/clinical/ethnomed/ethnomed.html
http://healthlinks.washington.edu/clinical/ethnomed/asthmaed.html
Ravensara S. Travillian
Executive Director
Massage Research Library
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:45:09 +0200
From: "THIRION, Benoit" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Foreign Language Patient Education Materials
we are working about it for French speaking people
http://doccismef.chu-rouen.fr/servlets/Simple?Mot=patient+education&aff=4&tr
i&datt=1&debut=0
Benoit Thirion - bibliothecaire / librarian
Centre Hospitalier Universitaire - F 76031 Rouen Cedex-FRANCE
tel +33 2 32 88 87 26 - fax +33 2 32 88 87 86
[log in to unmask]
http://www.chu-rouen.fr/documed/bibchu.html
http://doccismef.chu-rouen.fr/
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:58:05 -0500
From: Dixie Williamson <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: National Medical Librarians Month
Our Library recently participated in Saint Thomas Hospital's Benefit Fair.
The fair was this past Friday and Saturday. It is held each year to let
employees know about such benefits as health insurance and the Wellness
Center. It is like a big room full of vendor displays. We staffed a
table with information about the Library, our latest newsletter and a quiz
about the Library services. We also handed out copies of "Web Sites You
Can Trust" from the CAPHIS web site.
Our prizes were on display, which included a tote bag and a tie, both with
a book design. It took a bit of hustling to get people's attention, but
we had quite a few entries to the contest. We continue to promote the
contest through e-mail, inhouse newsletter and on an individual basis.
I have been e-mailing the TOC of journal issues to the "hospital master
group." I targeted journals that have gotten little use in the Library
but that have good information with a wide appeal (e.g., journals on
quality). This has been well received and has added a trickle of activity
to the Library.
Dixie Williamson
Julius Jacobs Health Sciences Library
Saint Thomas Hospital
4220 Harding Rd.
Nashville, TN 37205-3095
Phone: 615-222-6658
Fax: 615-222-6765
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:10:21 -0500
From: Peg Allen <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Peg Allen <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Summary EBSCO Databases
Thanks to Laurie for providing this summary. I recently had the
opportunity to look at another full-text interface for CINAHL, and was
reminded of the work of the NAHRS/MLA Task Force to Evaluate Search
Engines for CINAHL and MEDLINE. Using a Delphi process via e-mail, we
developed a features checklist, evaluation criteria and test search
questions. Co-chair Win Sewell and I plan to write this up for the new
Journal of Hospotal Librarianship, hopefully in time for Carole Gilbert's
next deadline. In the meantime, I can send anyone interested the summary
article from the NAHRS Newsletter, if you can read Word attachments. It
would be intersting to expand the criteria to include the full-text
features.
As for EBSCO, in Wisconsin we have statewide access to HealthSource Plus
and MEDLINE as part of our statewide full-text access. Problems have been
minimal and this has been a real bonus for public, school, and academic
libraries as well as the haalth science libraries. We are teaching
searching the interface in our consumer health train the trainer program.
Hope this helps - Peg
Margaret (Peg) Allen, MLS-AHIP mailto:[log in to unmask]
Library/Information Consultant
Resource Librarian Consultant for Cinahl Information Systems, Inc.
http://www.cinahl.com/
Library Consultant, Northern and Southwest Wisconsin Area Health Education
Centers, http://www.nahec-wi.org/ and
http://www.medsch.wisc.edu/ahec/swahec/
PO Box 2, 308 Kann, Stratford, WI 54484-0002
(715)687-4976 Fax:(715)687-4976
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:50:18 -0400
From: Peter Sam <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: How to Find Anything Online - webreview.com FYI
Just out Oct 6 on webreview.com
How to Find Anything Online
http://webreview.com/pub/2000/10/06/feature/index02.html?wwwrrr_20001006.txt
Online Research Toolbox
".. here's a basic online research toolbox guaranteed to give you a
competitive edge and help save your sanity next time you need to find
reliable facts fast."
Copernic
Web Ferret
Alexa
Alexa
Hoovers
Flyswat
Edgar Online
100 Hot (Health category is under Sports and Rec. !!!)
Miscellaneous Research Sites:
Internet research index
Librarian's Index to the Internet
Direct Search
Open Directory Project
Websearch forum
peter sam, web content developer
Primary Care Clinical Practice Guidelines
http://medicine.ucsf.edu/resources/guidelines/
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:19:25 -0700
From: "Gardner, Beverly" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Medical and other search engines AMNews 9-25 FYI
Nobody seems to mention www.dogpile.com. It is a meta-search engine which
searches several individual engines. It can be a starting place. Then,
if the result of a specific engine seems good, you go to that engine and
use its specific search techniques. I've found a lot of "needles" in just
that way.
Beverly Gardner
Providence Holy Cross Medical Center
Strazzeri Medical Library
15031 Rinaldi St.
Mission Hills, CA 91345
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:18:16 -0400
From: "Friedman, Yelena" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: MEDLINE Instructions in Russian
I thank all people who responded enthusiastically to my proposal to
compile MEDLINE Instructions in Russian. As soon as it's ready, I will
send the instruction to everyone who requested it.
Yelena.
Yelena Friedman, MLS, AHIP
Sophia F. Palmer Library
Lippincott Williams & Wilkins
Tel: (212) 886-1354
Fax: (212) 886-1206
E-mail: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:50:15 -0700
From: Iryna Berezovska <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: thanks:?Language barrier and basics in searching MEDLINE
I am grateful very much to all people who responded to my question about
MEDLINE instructions for Ukrainian end-users. I am very impressed with
your readiness to help. The next week I'll have a research trip to Buffalo
to participate in a workshop and to get some consultations on this topic.
I'll be happy to share any materials I might get with you. As both Russian
and Ukrainian are my native languages, I am planning to prepare my own
materials in both languages to send the Russian version to those of you
who work with Russian audience, however I need some time for doing this
since I have just started my fellowship.
Thank you,
Iryna Berezovska
School of Library & Information Science
San Jose State University
One Washington Square
San Jose, CA 95192-0029
Phone: (408) 924 2464
FAX: (408) 924 2476
Email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:27:25 -0700
From: "Mitchell B Stargrove, ND, LAc" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Need info on homeopathic drug
JoAnn and Cathy
it could be Carcinosinum
more likely than the others
best regards
Mitch
> Darcarcinorma??
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:54:18 EDT
From: Thomas L. Mead <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Funny MeSH and Don't Explode
Long long ago, when people were a tad more patient, I got away with
talking about MeSH to assembled mere mortals, and this was before
PowerPoint, and so I made a HyperCard stack (youngsters won't
understand; think of it as an embryonic black 'n white PowerPoint
with, to be truthful, WAY more power, and a "stack" was just
HyperCard's term for a presentation of "slides" or "cards"...)
... and this HyperCard stack gave me pictures or text to show
while I rambled on about controlled vocabulary and the joys of
indexing and the ambiguities of language (Latin, Greek, English,
jargon, acronyms, drug-names, etc.).
The first picture was that of a cat. Black and white, but she
still looks nice, and it would give me a page to focus the
projection "plate" which sat on a hot overhead projector (remember
those...?) -- and then I could talk immediately about the word
"CAT" and how it might mean little kitty here, and it might also
mean computerized axial tomography, which of course we'd probably
call tomography comma computerized axial. And even back then, I
could talk about AIDS, and what a stupid word it is, as a
"text-word..."
The good old days.
The HyperCard stack attempted to be as amusing as possible ('cuz
even back then people appreciated a little levity...), so I showed
some of the more amusing, or odd, or unexpected, or downright
funny MeSH terms. Some were chosen just to show some "breadth" of
Medline interests.
Yes, HyperCard still works (in black and white), and from this old project
I see terms like:
Bird Fancier's Lung
Whole Body Counting
Hair Balls
Bedbugs
Lutheran Blood-Group system
Electric Organ
Nail Biting
Religion and Sex
Sesame Oil
Skin Window Technic
Marmoset, short-tusked
Blue tongue
Scorpion venoms
Deja vu
Upper Volta
Screw worm infection
Acute yellow atrophy
Abbreviations
Oral Sadistic Stage
Saliva, Artificial
Red Cell Ghost
Jaw Relation Record
Torpedo
Prune belly syndrome
Predatory behavior
Lie detection
Liechtenstein
Library schools
Maternal age 35 and over
Swimming pools
Wit and Humor
Freemartinism
Oh, Hypercard was indeed fun. The stack goes on to show "invalid
terms" (e.g., Pulmonary diseases) and their valid counterparts (e.g.,
Lung diseases).
More?
vitamin c should be ascorbic acid
tapioca should be cassava
tocopherol should be vitamin e
adolescent pregnancy should be pregnancy in adolescence
gestational diabetes should be pregnancy in diabetes (strange lingo...)
laetrile should be amygdalin (remember that stuff?! was it apricot pits
or something...? and remember ALAR, sprayed on apples...?)
fangotherapy should be mud therapy
and on and on...
Later on that stack showed TREE STRUCTURES and PERMUTED MESH, and I'm
getting all nostalgic just thinking about the "green books" and being a
super-searcher, carefully planning the strategy before going online and
spending money. Green MeSH "tools" spread all over huge tables.
Planning some fun and outrageous "string-searching..."
Youngsters won't understand. We used to limit to Human and English with a
command which went like this:
ts (mh) human and eng (la)
We did this command so often that it came TRIPPINGLY off the fingers. It
meant: take the immediately preceding set and in that bunch, search the
MeSH field for "human" and while you're at it, search the Language field
for "Eng" and report back to me. And we weren't supposed to do that
trick on more than 500 references, or we might crash the only Medline in
the universe, which was available via Telenet or Tymnet, at this
address:
c301 20
We could also do bonkers stringsearches like:
ts (ti) :2:d:tetra: or :2:d:tetra: (ab)
and... (we could pretend we knew organic chemistry...)
oh. well. it's sad. we can't do anything like that anymore. the days
of pure wizardry are gone. they'll come back, of course. soon, we can
have all of Medline on the hard disk, and then do "GREP" searches of the
whole thing. That'll be amusing!
SO HERE'S THE WIERD THING....
Here it is the year 2000 (the age of YOUR TERM being automatically
"mapped" to MeSH...) and somebody wants me to deliver a "MeSH talk"
I can do it, of course. It will be like old times.
So -- my question. Given that I'd still like to be relatively
light-hearted about this subject, does anybody have any amusing or
startling MeSH terms to share? Or ones like "Maternal age 35 and over"
which are terms which you'd really have a HARD TIME "expressing" in
mappable text-words off the top of your brain. I'd
love eight or ten of those!
I'll be checking the ones above -- which may not exist anymore, who
knows...?
And I'll be moving all this to the web or to PowerPoint. (If the dopes
would make a COLOR HyperCard, I'd still use it! What's the matter with
them? No, they wanna make "cubes" and "iBooks" and flat-monitors and OS
#10.)
If I make something truly wonderful, I'll be glad to "share" with y'all.
A single Medline record (the "unit record")
The words in the record that the author has control over (title and
abstract)
The words that the human/federal/librarian/indexers have control over
(MeSH)
The stars.
The subheadings.
The ambiguities of language.
The exploding thing.
What else?
One more thing...
There are two kinds of medical librarians in the world -- those who
advocate ALWAYS exploding your MeSH term in a Medline interface -- and
those who don't want to say that -- they want to "visit" the decision
every single time.
For teaching, for most searches, and as a habit, etc. -- I'm one of the
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS EXPLODE types. Sure, I know it's arguable...
So, what I'd like to hear from anyone are examples of when that's really
stupid (to explode without thinkin' about it...). Really awful.
Dangerous, or genuinely counterproductive. Resulting in WAY too much, or
WAY off-base.
I'm sure there are some examples, and I'd like a few -- but being one of
the YOU SHOULD ALWAYS EXPLODE types, I just don't have these examples in
my brain.
THANKS!
Tom Mead [log in to unmask]
yes, some SNOW fell here (New Hampshire) today. it didn't last,
but it's clearly time to get the snow tires mounted...
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