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Subject:

RE: Online journals

From:

Julie Smith <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:44:02 -0000

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I quite like the Infotrac approach of buying in 'slots' in multiples of 50,
selecting your own titles form the range available, and being able to switch
titles in and out on a daily basis.  This kind of flexibility is appealing;
particularly the ability to gear the database to assignments in progress or
to Inter Library Loan journal requests where applicable.........

Julie Smith



> ----------
> From: 	Gary Borrows[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To: 	[log in to unmask]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, November 01, 2000 2:47 PM
> To: 	[log in to unmask]
> Subject: 	RE: Online journals
> 
> When we buy more than one title, we buy a 'bundle'. The 
> important distinction is who selects the titles. 'Bundles' put together
> by publishers/suppliers are like hampers: some choice selections; some 
> staple items and some makeweights. 'Bundles' put together by the 
> customers reflect real needs. So to my mind it would always be the
> second option - except for Christmas, birthdays and subject reviews 
> (sic). 'Never mind the quality, feel the width' is gaining support.
> 
> I can see the attractions of these 'e-bundles' to suppliers and their 
> marketing staff but if the supplier wants to attract more business then 
> perhaps they should also offer the time honoured alternative: the bigger
> your order ('bundle'), the bigger your discount.
> 
> Gary Borrows
> Subject & Research Support
>  
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:51:40 +0100 Colin Sinclair 
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I agree with Judy on this. Our budgets for both resources and staff are
> not
> > so generous as to allow us to spend money and time on titles that do not
> 
> > support teaching and research at the university. We have done so as we
> have
> > purchased bundles of journals from a number of publishers, but I'm y
> unsure
> > of it as a model for other publishers to follow.
> > One or two colleagues, however, have suggested that there is value in
> > getting access to a wide range of material, making it available and
> letting
> > the user decide - usage statistics then become a key tool in assessing
> the
> > value of any material.
> > I guess the ideal solution, then, is to be offfered a choice -
> electronic
> > access individually - priced sensibly (remember we often struggle to
> fund
> > print subs, hefty increases for e-access aren't sustainable), options on
> > print only, e-only and print and electronic with perhaps an option on
> > bundles of titles if that is attractive to some libraries.
> > Also note Ian Noble's point on the access options - and remember many of
> us
> > have other campus libraries around the country and large numbers of
> > off-campus users.
> > 
> > Colin.
> > ___________________________________
> > Colin Sinclair
> > Head of Bibliographic Services
> > University of Stirling	
> > STIRLING
> > FK9 4LA
> > Tel: 01786 - 467218
> > Fax: 01786 - 466866
> > email: [log in to unmask]
> > ___________________________________
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:	Fraser [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent:	26 October 2000 15:50
> > > To:	[log in to unmask]
> > > Subject:	RE: Online journals
> > > 
> > > Thanks very much for this, Judy.  It's precisely for useful feedback
> such
> > > as
> > > this that I sent the original email, as of course it's imperative that
> we
> > > deliver what libraries want, rather than what we want them to want!
> All
> > > our
> > > journals will be available individually, both online and in print, so
> > > institutions that want to subscribe to just one or two or a handful
> can do
> > > so.  Of course, the flip-side of this is that they will be paying the
> > > standard subscription rate, rather than the heavily discounted
> > > cost-per-title of the e-Bundle.
> > > 
> > > Out of interest, what would you consider to be an appropriate price
> for a
> > > multi-user, full-text electronic journal?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Judy Taylor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: 26 October 2000 16:33
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Online journals
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I hate to sound as if I'm striking at the very root of your proposal 
> > > and all that, but the way to make your electronic journals attractive 
> > > to libraries is not, repeat *not*, to bundle them. The last thing 
> > > libraries want is to be tied to an all-in deal at a price they can 
> > > barely afford under which they are subsidising titles they don't want 
> > > (often, titles that nobody very much wants). I think it would be fair 
> > > to say that MCB's espousal of this pricing strategy has brought 
> > > them a fair measure of unpopularity among their (now quite often 
> > > ex-) customers: you might be wise to do a bit more market 
> > > research on this one.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Date sent:      	Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:53:52 +0100
> > > Subject:        	Online journals
> > > From:           	Fraser <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To:             	"[log in to unmask]"
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Send reply to:  	[log in to unmask]
> > > 
> > > > Hallo, I hope you can help.  Henry Stewart Publications publishes a
> > > > range of quarterly journals, many of which are - or are soon to be -
> > > > available online.  We will shortly be offering academic libraries
> > > > electronic access to an 'e-bundle' of approximately 15 management
> and
> > > > marketing journals, at a significantly reduced price-per-journal. 
> > > > This will be not dissimilar to the Emerald service provided by MCB.
> > > > 
> > > > In order for this venture to be a success, we need to be sure that
> we
> > > > are offering academic libraries precisely what they need, at as
> little
> > > > cost to them as possible. I would therefore welcome any suggestions
> as
> > > > to how we should structure this e-Bundle, in terms of delivery
> > > > (Internet access [IP addresses or passwords?], PDFs or HTML on
> CD-Rom
> > > > for intranet access?), pricing, and to whom we should be making our
> > > > offer (E-librarian? Head of Electronic Collections? Something else?)
> > > > 
> > > > We believe that this e-Bundle will ultimately represent tremendous
> > > > value for money for our library subscribers who be able to provide
> > > > wider access to more content, more cost-effectively. I hope you'll
> be
> > > > able to help to ensure we are best place to deliver this, and hope
> to
> > > > hear from you.
> > > > 
> > > > Information about our journals can be found at
> > > > http://www.henrystewart.co.uk/hspindex.html
> > > > 
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > 
> > > > Fraser Tant
> > > > Marketing Manager
> > > > Henry Stewart Publications
> > > > e: mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > > > t: +44 (0)20 7323 2916 x103
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Judy Taylor
> > > Assistant Librarian 
> > > (Periodicals / Academic Liaison)
> > > DUNDEE UNIVERSITY LIBRARY
> > > DUNDEE DD1 4HN
> > > tel: extn 5184, external dial 01382-345184
> 
> Gary Borrows		e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> tel: 01782 294553
> 
> Library and Information Service
> PO Box 664
> Staffordshire University
> College Road
> Stoke-on-Trent
> Staffordshire
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> 


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