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Re: Aspartame--Junkscience?

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Steve <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:58:56 -0700 (PDT)

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Maria Stella,

Right now I am having a real hard time not calling you an idiot.  The
poeple at Trash Talk are independent of Junkscience.com.  They are people
like you who post on the internet, the only difference is that they do it
at a different site than you.  To cast aspersions on their characters,
people you don't even Goddamn know, is disgusting to me and really pisses
me off.  The toxicologists by the way have often argued against
conclusions and positions of the owner of Junkscience.com, Steve Milloy. 
Moreover, toxdoc is a government toxicologist and LaneH works for the
government as well.  Stella works for a University, and I don't know where
laura tox works.

Also, you are misrepresenting Junkscience.com.  AFAIK there are two people
that run that site, Steve Milloy and an assitant.  As foe the sites
ethical credentials what the hell is that?  If you mean who is Steve
Milloy affiliated with...well I can say is an adjunct scholar for the Cato
Institute, he also works as a Washington D.C. lobbyist.  Now, if these two
things make him wrong, then any further discussion with you is pointless.

For crying out loud, I post two sites, each the polar opposite and  you
whine.  Also, I find it amazing you would not want to see what the
toxicologists have to say on this.  Typical of a TrueBeliever.

Oh yeah, none of the above was sarcastic.  I mean every word of it.

Steve


--- Maria Stella <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Steve, 
> Junkscience is FAMOUS now for the type of 'scientists' it attracts and
> their goals. Just by association, i have the feeling that you will not
> necessarily get the right answers there.
> Didn't you know the sites ethical credentials? Why am i associating it
> in
> my mind with Burston-Marstellar?
> 
> Just a thought
> MS
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Steve wrote:
> 
> > This is the second time John has mentioned Aspartame as being bad.  So
> out
> > of curiousity I looked around the web.  I found this appaling ugly
> site.
> > 
> > http://www.dorway.com/
> > 
> > However, I was skeptical of the sight so I went to
> > 
> > www.junkscience.com to see what Steve Milloy has there
> > 
> > I did a search and found these documents there:
> > 
> > http://www.junkscience.com/jun99/aspart.htm
> > 
> > http://www.junkscience.com/news/nutrasweet.html
> > 
> > At Trash Talk, the BB for Junkscience.com I have started a thread on
> > aspartame, particularly on a specific article at the anti-aspartame
> site
> > above.  Here is a link to the thread.
> > 
> > http://www.cfis.org/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000069.html
> > 
> > Note I just started the thread so there maybe no replies yet. 
> However,
> > the people I have asked are all toxicologists.  I am asking for their
> > expert opinion on the article.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- John Foster <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Chris Perley:
> > > >You specifically say that "only irrational companies...[who do bad
> > > >things]......have to hire "public relations" folk."  Isn't this
> just a
> > > >little judgmental. 
> > > 
> > > No. I was answering you. Burson Marstellars hires the ex-US FDA
> chief
> > > who
> > > was an appointee of Ronald Reagan. This ex-US FDA chief was
> installed by
> > > Ronald Reagan to overturn a 14 year ban on Aspartame. 
> > > 
> > > There are serious health problems with Aspartame. Aspartme is a
> company
> > > owned by Monsanto. Why does Monsanto and Burson Marstellars share
> office
> > > space and services? 
> > 
> > 
> > =====
> > "In a nutshell, he [Steve] is 100% unadulterated evil. I do not
> believe in a 'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as
> they come." 
> > --Jamey Lee West
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
> > http://invites.yahoo.com/
> > 
> 


=====
"In a nutshell, he [Steve] is 100% unadulterated evil. I do not believe in a 'Satan', but this man is as close to 'the real McCoy' as they come." 
--Jamey Lee West

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