And Bill,
I would add that the difference between the world and the asimov fiction is that in the world there is no meta-level transcendental coding whiteboard (that we can access) which then controls the world from the top down. (No, not even art history achieves this meta-perspective. [Especially not!]) Language is an affective (and semiotic, and denotative, and connotative, and performative) force WITHIN the system (the world) that it modulates (and that modulates it). Like shooting at a moving target (with a gun made out of the target). There is no third person omniscient perspective we can access, no macro-zoom-out toggle.
crt
On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Miller, Bill wrote:
> <begin poor SF description>
> in asimov foundation series
> the field of psychohistory
> is basically a giant mathz
> equation toiled away at for
> forever ever forever ever for
> and in one of the later books
> we learn about the what the
> millionth(z) generation of
> psychohistorians uses to
> work this equation - a
> room size white wall
> interactive/screen/monitor/board
> where one might view the
> equation
> with zoom in/out
> so like you look at it
> big picture
> small picture
> i
> bring up this book
> and psychohistory
> because to me
> the psychohistorians
> are programming - they
> edit and develop a program
> in that defines the past
> future
> presents
>
> the view in the
> big/small
> picture
> the elements of
> equation
> are lived/ing beings
> \ lived/ing spaces
> \ lived/ing histories
> \ \
> \ \
> \__________________\
>
> not advancing, but editing
> not enhancing, but developing
> positionZ
> <end>
> SAUCE00
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