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Subject:

Re: CC licenses

From:

Scott Wilson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Scott Wilson <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:16:58 +0100

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You may find is useful to look at the CC sampling licenses:

http://creativecommons.org/about/sampling

On 19 Aug 2009, at 14:44, Andrew Gray wrote:

> Thanks for this Chris.
>
> I think one of the issues not only for our legal advisors but also  
> for our researchers is that their research is often practice based.  
> Not all of it is directly funded by our institution or funding  
> bodies though a lot of it is. Also a considerable number or  
> academics within the arts are part time. Their research outputs will  
> often include images of their photography, video work, painting,  
> installations etc and a lot will be hoping that they can have some  
> commercial recompense. Of course they are also looking for the usual  
> raising of profile and increased knowledge of their practice.
>
> Our job is to walk that fine line where we encourage our researchers  
> to provide us their work, ideally with a cc license but also not  
> mislead them as to what such licenses can mean.
>
> All part of the joy of the arts!
>
> andrew
>
>
> Andrew Gray
> Kultur Project Officer UAL
> Kubrick Archive
> London College of Communication
> Elephant and Castle
> London SE1 6SB
> 020 7 514 9334
> http://kultur.eprints.org/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Rusbridge [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 18 August 2009 16:13
> To: Andrew Gray
> Cc: [log in to unmask]; Mags McGeever
> Subject: Re: [JISC-REPOSITORIES] CC licenses
>
> What's the real issue here? There are always possibilities that
> people will make money from your work. But if it's primarily
> scholarship/research, and you are primarily interested in getting
> exposure rather than money, then a CC licence is sensible. We use CC-
> BY-NC-SA ourselves (attribution, which is not quite the same as
> citation, non-commercial, but we'd do a separate commercial licence
> if you wanted, and share-alike to make sure the licence gets passed
> on in any re-use; we would allow derivative works, but assume that
> they would have to carry our licence, which might restrict them too
> much). There are arguments that this is too restrictive, that it
> prohibits some kinds of sensible re-use, and that we should simply
> consider CC-BY.
>
> Perhaps the Arts link means that some of these products may have a
> separate commercial value, eg as Creative Works in a less technical,
> more cultural sense. If that were the case, you can still make them
> available in a repository, but it might make sense to have a
> different more restrictive licence. I'm copying this to Mags McGeever
> for comment, although there are plenty of other experts on this list
> who may well jump in....
>
> --
> Chris Rusbridge
> Director, Digital Curation Centre
> Email: [log in to unmask]    Phone 0131 6513823
> University of Edinburgh
> Appleton Tower, Crichton St, Edinburgh EH8 9LE
>
> 5th International Digital Curation Conference: "Moving to Multi-Scale
> Science," London, 2-4 December
>
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>
>
>
> On 17 Aug 2009, at 10:09, Andrew Gray wrote:
>
>> ***sorry for cross posting****
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> CC licenses again! We are always so near to launching our own
>> institutional repository and one of the goals from our project was
>> to promote the use of CC licenses within the arts community, we
>> would have been using  : Attribution - Non-Commercial - No
>> Derivatives (BY-NC-ND) . Our legal team have come across some
>> issues that have made them nervous. The prime one being that
>> material can be collected together in 'anthologies and
>> encyclopaedias' and that 'content which is licensed can apparently
>> even be sold on, as long as this is not done "primarily" for
>> commercial advantage or private monetary compensation'. I am trying
>> to think of examples of this being done and from there hopefully
>> assure our legal team and our researchers that it is not a big
>> worry and the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
>>
>> Have other institutions been using CC licenses? If so how have you
>> tackled such worries?
>>
>> andrew
>>
>>
>> Andrew Gray
>> Kultur Project Officer UAL
>> Kubrick Archive
>> London College of Communication
>> Elephant and Castle
>> London SE1 6SB
>> 020 7 514 9334
>> http://kultur.eprints.org/
>>


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