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Re: The future of Somerset Heritage Services

From:

David Evans <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:53:40 +0100

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But it is wonderful to work for a local authority where the HER officer
is treated (and paid) as more that just a data entry operative.

David Evans
Historic Environment Record Officer
(Postal Address)
Strategic Planning Policy & Specialist Advice
Department of Environment and Community Services
PO Box 2081
The Council Offices, Castle Street
Thornbury
South Gloucestershire
BS35 9BP
Phone: 01454 863649
fax:       01454 864473
 
Visit our HER on Line at 
http://maps.southglos.gov.uk/CommunityMap/

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Val Turner
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:45
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The future of Somerset Heritage Services

Why be afraid of being in a trust? We've done that since day 1 for26
years now. We agree a price under a service level agreement . And yes I
do have more fun cos as well as dc I have managed two huge European /
hlf funded projects, do loads of community related stuff and lots of
scope for creative thought! What's not to love? We can't be poacher and
game keeper as HS would intervene and anyway that would be
unprofessional 
Val
Shetland amenity trust

Sent from miPhone

On 21 Jun 2012, at 07:33, "Vince Russett"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Morning, Chris!
> 
> Sanguineous Norah! This was a line the bozos here took in 2000, but
> thorough investigation showed it wouldn't work (for us, at least). The
> rocks it foundered on were
> 
> 1    Quality assessment - who in the council assesses whether the
> work an external trust is doing is appropriate - oh, hang on, an
> archaeologist
> 2    Relative costs: it turned out that an external trust could, in
> effect, charge the council whatever they felt like, if it was the
> exclusive source of advice
> 3    Control: an external trust can go looking for work elsewhere,
> and need not limit itself to working for one authority: terms that
bind
> it to one contravene works legislation (or did in 2000, anyway)
> 4    Mick Aston and Keith Gardner
> 
> Best of luck with it: remember Babtie and Bucks, Berks and Oxon...
> 
> Vince
> 
> Vince Russett
> County Archaeologist
> Development Management Group
> North Somerset Council
> 
> Our Historic Environment Record is now on-line: Go to the North
Somerset
> web site (http://www.n-somerset.gov.uk) then use the tabs Environment
/
> Conservation / Archaeology/ Historic Environment Record. Enjoy!
> 
> Landline: 01934 426456
> Mobile:    07919 265645
> 
> Please note my work hours are usually 8am to 4pm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
> Sent: 20 June 2012 16:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The future of Somerset Heritage Services
> 
> Indeed. They are proposing to do a full business case for casting us
> adrift as a Somerset Heritage Trust or something like. This would be
> compared to keeping us in house and a decision taken.
> 
> 
> Chris Webster
> Historic Environment Record
> Somerset County Council
> Somerset Heritage Centre
> Brunel Way
> Taunton
> TA2 6SF
> 
> 01823 347434
> 
> Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vince Russett
> Sent: 20 June 2012 15:54
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: The future of Somerset Heritage Services
> 
> Sorry, Chris, I lost the will to live after page 1. What are they
> actually proposing?
> 
> Vince
> 
> Vince Russett
> County Archaeologist
> Development Management Group
> North Somerset Council
> 
> Our Historic Environment Record is now on-line: Go to the North
Somerset
> web site (http://www.n-somerset.gov.uk) then use the tabs Environment
/
> Conservation / Archaeology/ Historic Environment Record. Enjoy!
> 
> Landline: 01934 426456
> Mobile:    07919 265645
> 
> Please note my work hours are usually 8am to 4pm
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
> Sent: 20 June 2012 15:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: The future of Somerset Heritage Services
> 
> Those with an interest in the way that local authority heritage
services
> could be delivered in the future might be interested in the documents
> that have emerged from the review of our service.
> 
> http://www1.somerset.gov.uk/council/meetings/reports.asp?item=901
> 
> These will be considered by the Scrutiny Committee on 26 June before
> going to cabinet for a decision to proceed with the next phase of the
> review.
> 
> Chris Webster
> Historic Environment Record
> Somerset County Council
> Somerset Heritage Centre
> Brunel Way
> Taunton
> TA2 6SF
> 
> 01823 347434
> 
> Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her
> 
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