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Re: Discussion of record 2

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"Lee, Deborah" <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:10:37 +0000

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Interestingly, the LC authority for LCSH has only the LoC bit capitalised, with "subject headings" in lower case.  However, in anything I've checked the whole thing is capitalised.  So RDA's idea of following the capitalisation of normal language usage seems to be just as ambiguous in practice in RDA as it was in AACR2 ...

Debbie

Deborah Lee
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-----Original Message-----
From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Williams
Sent: 24 October 2012 11:02
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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Discussion of record 2

Thanks Anne
Like you, the transcribing capitals option is filling me with dread!
But I imagine in bulk loads (ebooks for example) we would accept it...
Helen

-----Original Message-----
From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Welsh, Anne
Sent: 24 October 2012 10:59
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Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Discussion of record 2

I agree they should be related. I just didn't think of that at the time
:)

Library of Congress Subject Headings is a proper noun so should be capitalised.

There's also the option in RDA (terrifying though it is for us) to transcribe capitals as they appear on the title page (but I think this is really meant for those who accept publisher data (because that's what ONIX does), and can't bring myself to capitalise at the random whim of a page designer (VIRTUAL REFERENCE DESK ahoy)!

Anne










On 24/10/2012 10:49, "Helen Doyle" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Copyright date - I agree, RDA 2.11 says c/right date is core if date of

>publication or distribution isn't known.
>
>Does LCSH need capitals? I put Library of Congress (name of place), but

>then wasn't sure about Subject Headings.
>
>'Preferred title' ('uniform title' in AACR2) - do we need to fill this
>in every time? RDA says it's a core element, but in AACR2 'uniform
>title' is only used if required.
>
>Related works - I feel Vanda's book needs to be connected to the LCSHs
>themselves, as her book takes them as a starting point. Her Work (in a
>FRBR
>sense) is intrinsically linked to/based on another Work.
>
>HelenD.
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>
>Helen Doyle
>Assistant Librarian
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>Royal Academy of Dance
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>London
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>0207 326 8032
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>>>> Helen Williams <[log in to unmask]> 10/24/2012 10:31 am >>>
>Thank you to everyone who has submitted a version of record 2.
>
>It's time to open up discussion on anything you'd like to raise.  It's
>going to be very useful to talk about the differences we see in
>records, and on some issues we may be able to come to consensus, while
>other areas will remain open to interpretation!  Any comments we make
>won't be criticisms of differences in records, so please feel free to
discuss.
>
>
>
>A few things I've noticed to start us off...
>
>
>
>*some of us have included a second 264 field with a (c) date
>
>* some of us (including me!) have included a relationship designator of

>'author' - what's the feeling about whether this is necessary on a
>straightforward record?
>
>* A few people have included related works/manifestations
>
>
>
>Plenty of other differences too, so let's open the discussion
>
>
>
>Helen
>
>Helen Williams
>
>Assistant Librarian, Bibliographic Services
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