This message got bounced back because my provider seems to have
unilaterraly changed my address (for the second time). The original was
addressed to Lawrence, and he has already replied. Apologies for any
confusion this will cause, but I figured it was worth having this up since
the reply has been posted.
Tony
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> De: Anthony Frazer <[log in to unmask]>
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> Asunto: RE: Hughes does America
> Fecha: 28 January 1998 11:50
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> Sorry Lawrence, but I don' t think your attack on Doug Clark stands up.
It
> might if I'd ever seen any considered detailed criticism of mainstream
> poetry in this list, but I can't recall it. In fact Doug's opinion of Out
> of Everywhere seems not dissimilar to opinions frequently uttered on this
> site with regard to, say, Ted Hughes' work. Most of the lit-crit I've
seen
> on this list so far has been of the back-slapping aren't-we-all-wonderful
> variety or of the what-a-load-of-garbage variety. Neither are much use
(and
> there we might agree?). When I have seen detailed praise of a
contemporary
> poet here it's often been couched in what appears to be an impenetrable
> idiolect and only rarely gels with what I see in the figure concerned -
but
> then I'm no critic, so it may well be my problem.
>
> For my part, I found Doug's view of the book interesting to hear (but
more
> so when I knew which writers he felt more worthwhile), and the more so
> because he's one of the very few people on this list who confesses to a
> more mainstream view of life than either you or I would hold. I think I
> understand your annoyance (and that's how it comes across, whether you
> meant it or not), but I'd rather the list members were not discouraged
from
> making contributions of this kind.
>
> Perhaps next time someone here says Ted Hughes' new book is a load of
crap
> you'll request a similar detailed analysis?
>
> For the record, I've only seen the poems published in The Times, and I
> thought it worth the read but uninspiring - and probably not worth a
re-read.
> I'll suspend final judgement until I can read the whole thing.
>
> Tony
>
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