As soon as any evidence is presented I'd be more than happy to take a look
at it. I watched all the youtube broadcasts - but didn't see anything that
would stand up to even the slightest scrutiny as 'evidence'. I would,
however, be interested to know how you came across these 'secret societies'
established by the ancients who only pass on their years of accumulated
wisdom to those who have proven worthy? Are you perhaps one of the
initiated? If this is the case then it should be observed that by posting
this information to an archaeology discussion list (where we are not widely
known for being discrete) you are rather failing to keep it secret. If, on
the other hand, you have simply come across the information during the
course of your research - then it suggests that these secret organisations,
who have kept their existence hidden for thousands of years, have become
rather lax of late.
I'm an archaeologist of sorts. I work on the presented evidence. So far you
have made a number of far flung claims about secret societies, pyramids and
the accumulated wisdom of the ancients. For none of this have you provided
any evidence to support these claims. You have shown me a complex daisy
wheel pattern. However, I see those EVERY week. The ones I find are made
with dividers or a compass. The one you highlighted would also, in every
respect, appear to be made with dividers or a compass. I see no need for a
laser - and certainly no evidence for one being employed.
What really worries me though is the disservice you do to our forebears. You
seem to be implying that their abilities to construct complex geometric
designs in their architecture had to be the result of secret societies
passing on such hidden knowledge. However, in archaeological terms they
appear rather able to have worked it out for themselves. There is no need
for a hidden wisdom (beyond geometry), secret societies or lasers. They had
mathematics, dividers and that greatest of human achievements, reasoned
Lastly, I should just point out that the NMGS website has NO connection with
this discussion list - which rather begs the question of why you should
choose this list to post to after you had 'obviously' seen the litcham
entry. It would be rather more 'obvious' to talk to the NMGS. Perhaps you
identified a connection and link between the Britarch discussion list and
the NMGS website that none of us have so far been made aware of? Received
wisdom of the ancients perhaps? Known only to initiates? Do let us know -
unless, of course, it is secret...
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Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] daisy wheel cryptogram meaning solved by theoretical
With all due respect... I generally find that those who aren't willing to at
least examine the evidence provided before rejecting it will not benefit
from having further enlightenment provided or in having one's homework
performed for them. Hence the ancient establishment of secret societies who
provided their years of accumulated wisdom only to those who have proven
worthy of joining their ranks through an organized initiation process...
which is what the pyramids were actually used for...an initiation.
I obviously saw the entry on the Litcham website or I would not have posted
to this group to begin with. I thank you very much for pointing out the hole
in the center of each design which hole had not previously come to my
attention. The reason the hole is there is also explained in the lecture by
I am curious how you would explain your reasoning that the ancients carved
the daisy wheel into pyramids to communicate only the basics of Euclidian
geometry when they did so thousands of years before the man was even born?
It seems as logical as thinking the pyramids at Giza were built to
communicate the basic geometric shape of "triangle".
> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 10:14:52 +0100
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> Subject: Re: [BRITARCH] daisy wheel cryptogram meaning solved by
> To: [log in to unmask]
> With all due respect - what a complete pile of poo. Whilst said symbol is
> one of the most common finds for the Norfolk Graffiti Survey (see the
> for Litcham on the website) I have yet to come across evidence for them
> being burnt in with a laser. A set of dividers works very well. Having
> examined detailed photographs of many of the Egyptian examples I was
> wondering how the 'physicist' is going to explain the presence of the
> compass point hole in the centre of each design. Was that too made with a
> laser to add an 'authentic' touch? Rather than looking at it as a mystical
> symbol for those who had been 'initiated into the sacred secrets' of the
> universe it might be worth pondering that it is also a very effective way
> communicating a far more mundane, but no less arcane, information - the
> basics of Euclidian geometry. Something that would have been very
> to the builders of any temple, civic building or outside privy.
> Having said that, there was that UFO we found inscribed on the back of the
> rood screen at Acle...
> Matt Champion.
> Norfolk Medieval Graffiti Survey.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: British archaeology discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Deborah Thornsbury
> Sent: 26 August 2012 04:30
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [BRITARCH] daisy wheel cryptogram meaning solved by theoretical
> It's called "the Flower of LIfe" and
> represents the sacred geometry and physics behind how life is created
> and human consciousness ascends. It was carved onto the walls in the most
> ancient of pyramids in Egypt, the Osirion temple at Abydos, and is also
> underneath the paw of the Lions guarding the entrance to what was once
> forbidden kingdom. Physicist Nassim Harramein did a wonderful lecture on
> it in layman's terms with beautiful photographs. Here's something to
> ponder....the same drawing on the Osirion temple was burned into the
> stone wall with a laser! So the possible reason for this symbol being
> carved into the wall in this chapel was a symbol for someone "in the
> know" who has been initiated into the sacred secrets which time
> eventually lost the interpretation of, although the carving remained
> behind to benefit the next generation of awakened humans. The Egyptians
> said they received this knowledge from "The Sun Gods"
> The 6 hour long detailed explanation in layman's terms
> Shorter explanations of the meaning: