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QAA express themselves in somewhat different terms from those which you have used, Dick. To quote: "Awards will only be termed postgraduate if all - or (in certain cases) a defined and substantial majority - of the assessed outcomes of study have been demonstrated to be at a more advanced level than that of the honours degree. All postgraduate awards will reflect and be reviewed against postgraduate level descriptors." I don't believe that it follows from this statement that the award of a Masters could only take place on those programmes where a degree in a cognate subject was an entry requirement. The challenge will be to show that the outcomes of our 'conversion' Master's degrees are consistent with postgraduate level descriptors. Not impossible, I believe. We might want to review our use of the term 'first qualification programme', however. Best wishes Peter --------------------------------------------------------------- Professor Peter Enser Head of School School of Information Management University of Brighton Watts Building Moulsecoomb Brighton BN2 4GJ Tel: +44(0)1273 643500 Fax: +44(0)1273 642405 WWW: http://www.it.bton.ac.uk email: [log in to unmask] -------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: R J Hartley [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 18 November 1999 10:52 > To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask] > Subject: "Conversion" courses > > > > a recent email following my notes on the la epms meeting makes it > clear that it is possible to interpret my phrase "conversion course" > in more than one way. > > I am not referring to those programmes where a pg diploma can be > coverted to a Masters. Rather I ought to have referred to first > qualification masters programmes. Unless I completely > misunderstand the situation, it is QAA's proposal that it should not > be possible to award a Masters degree to someone on a first > qualification programme. If the proposals are accepted, the award > of a Masters could only take place on those programmes where a > degree in a cognate subject was an entry requirement. This I think > affects us all. there are very clear implications for marketing our > programmes overseas and for marketability of our graduates > overseas. > > hope this clarifies > > dick hartley > > > > > Dick Hartley, > Head, Department of Information and Communications, > Manchester Metropolitan University, > Rosamund Street West, > Manchester > M15 6LL > phone: +44 161 247 6139 > fax: +44 161 247 6351 > email: [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%