Hello Tony, Fortunately for computer dumbos like us, we don't need to rely on the human relationship so much! Computer people have mastered the art of communication without a human element!! Before I get a barrage of attacks - I am married to a computer person! With your current virus detector all you have to do is get onto the internet/web, search for your brand's webpage and download whatever brand you have - it is usually free and the instructions aren't too bad to follow. What brand do you have? It is advisable to update the virus detector every 6 months or when there is a big scare like Melissa because so many new ones are created every day. It is a good idea to do a scan in certain circumstances e.g. when someone give you a file on a floppy to copy. i used to do a lot of interfloppy copies with various SIG members and others and many times, the detector picked up viruses that the originator did not know they had because of outdated virus software. Failing that you could find a friendly 8 year old neighbour who would probably know how to do it!! The kids around her put me to shame! Then your daughter can find a nice artist friend or ship builder! Good luck and let me know how you go - email me directly if you like Cheers, Anna Anna Lee Principal, Work Ready Industrial Athlete Centre Write to me at [log in to unmask] Visit me at www.workready.com.au Snail mail: Suite 3, 82 Enmore Road, Newtown NSW 2042 Australia Tel: (02) 9519 7436 Mob: 0412 33 43 98 Fax: (02) 9519 7439 -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, 19 October 1999 5:30 Subject: Re: viruses Dear Anna.Sounds like a very good idea that everyone should have some sort of detector.My daughter's boyfriend installed just such a programme for me about a year ago but the relationship between them is, how can I best put this... rather fragile, and I therefore can no longer rely on his expertise to sort out those problems which, to those who are computer literate, are not problems. I would not recognise a virus if it were to bite me on the elbow and rely on experts like yourself to warn me not to open certain files. Perhaps our Leader (Hi, Heather!) has what is known in the Military as the 'DS Solution' ? Regards, Tony Windsor P.S. DS is shorthand for Directing Staff