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Bill-the phrase isn't consistently present in the earlier creeds but I was really wondering if there had been some question regarding descending to inferna vs. purgatory in the late middle ages as the notion of a purgatory is being shaped a la Le Goff. Any ideas where to look? thanks, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill East <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 11:41 AM Subject: Re: creed > > > > Has anyone out there an idea of when the phrase "descendit ad inferos > > (inferna) " became normative for the western church Creed after the > > earlier councils. Was it contested in the later medieval period? My > > reason is that the phrase is often paired with St. Thomas in > > associations of apostles and the Creed and that suggests to me that > > there might have been some "doubting" that had to be proven..Thanks > > much > > I don't know if anyone did contest the phrase, but it is well grounded > in scripture. 1 Peter 3:18f has, "In the body he was put to death, in > the spirit he was raised to life, and, in the spirit, he went to preach > to the spirits in prison . . . > > ". . . And because he is their judge too, the dead had to be told the > Good news as well . . ." (1 Peter 4:6) > > To deny the clause would have been to deny the authority of St Peter's > letter. Again, I don't know if in fact anyone did so. Stranger things > have happened. > > Bill. > > ===== > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%