>I meant the Western position as Thomas understood it at the time. >Tom Izbicki Thanks for the clarification. On the other hand, do you think Thomas's description of the Western position is reflected in the documented debates and conciliar negotiations of the unionist/anti-unionist councils of the 13th c, or in the Papal policy twoard the "Latin Empire" at Constantinople ? Josef Gulka Josef Gulka [log in to unmask] 215- 732-8420 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%