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Dear Anita, The exchange in question was actually some silliness. The humour was obviously rather culturally and geographically relative. In Ron's post to the list regarding the Singer/Asch debate he played upon the idea of disability theorists on tour and himself on tour with the Rolling Stones, a British rock band which was quite popular in the 70s and 80s. In addition, Ron alleged that he is a better singer than Mick Jagger, who is the lead singer of the band. For those not familiar with Mick Jagger and the Stones, Jagger has a trademark defiant pose and pout and lips were an insignia of the group throughout the 80s. This is what I was referring to when I challenged Ron on pouting. It had nothing to do with Singer. Hope this clarifies. (Sorry for the lousy joke.) Best regards, Shelley Tremain Dr. Anita Ghai wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: [log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:14 PM > Subject: Rejected [non-member submission] Re: Singer/Asch debate and more > debates > > > > >[log in to unmask] is not > >a member or owner of the disability-research list > > > > > >*** > >*** Sorry, only list members and owners may send mail to this list. > >*** You can contact the list owners by sending mail to > disability-research-request > >*** > >Hi > >Well I am not aware of Singer's physical attributes and gestures, but it is > >rather strange for me to hear people using physical attributes to win > >points. Is it not possible to leave it at the level of debate? Of course if > >the hostilities run deep, I stand CORRECTED > >Anita > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Pfeiffer <[log in to unmask]> > >To: Shelley Tremain <[log in to unmask]> > >Cc: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > >Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 10:51 AM > >Subject: Re: Singer/Asch debate and more debates > > > > > >>As a matter of fact, Ron just could do it! Have you ever seen him pout? > >>David > >> > >> > >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>David Pfeiffer, Ph.D. > >>Resident Scholar > >>Center on Disability Studies > >>University of Hawai`i at Manoa > >>[log in to unmask] > >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>Center on Disability Studies....maximizing individual > >>potential by encouraging independence, self-determination, > >>and full participation in the community. > >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> > >>On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Shelley Tremain wrote: > >> > >>> Ron Amundson wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Personally, I'd love to argue with Singer. I think I could kick his > >ass. But > >>> > then I think I sing better than Jagger. > >>> > > >>> > >>> That may in fact be the case. But can you cop a pose, protrude your > >>> lower lip, and pout better than him? :-) > >>> > >>> Shelley > >>> > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > > >>> > Ron > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Ron Amundson > >>> > University of Hawaii at Hilo > >>> > Hilo, HI 96720 > >>> > [log in to unmask] > >>> > >> > >> > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%