I know plenty of people who would fit any medical or social model of disability but would run (if theycould) a mile if I dared to call them disabled (difficult as to get to see me during working hours someone has to think you're disabled). It seems to be about how they have been brought up and the view of disability that they have developed from parents, family, friends etc. It's simply just one of those little things that has to be fixed befor we can have equality. Paul %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%