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In the late 70 early 80 when I was a student, what you described was the norm. In the later years, within women's studies, I learnt to make association of my (our) oppression to the oppression they understood, did the same with black women's course. Some time it works other times people did not get it. I recommend that you use equality concepts, this works often Good Luck. Maria -----Original Message----- From: Jerrold Hirsch [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 3:00 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: diversity on campus Fellow List Subsribers; There is constant talk (since talk is cheap) about diveristy at my campus, but that talk almost never includes disability. And diversity training and workshops never seem to include disability. So, any suggestions about activities and speakers that could bring disability to discussions about diversity. Are there people who do this? Have any of you had experience with this on your campuses? What have you done on your campuses? Looking forward to getting some good ideas that we could try to use here in an isolated cormer of Missouri. Jerry Hirsch