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If we can learn from the past, it is fairly sobering to look at the history of standards when it comes to character encoding. >From the 19th century, the pattern seems to be that almost as soon as well meaning groups established a standard along came a company that created its own solution, quickly implemented it, and everyone followed. Effectively implementing DC so that anyone can use it requires a host of tools yet to be developed. If MS can create those tools and quickly integrate them into its applications then they will probably control the standard. That such a loose knit group as the DC community has trouble creating application tools, because it acts through concensus, may, sadly, turn out to be its undoing. Surely someone from MS is listening to this conversation and can suggest another way? Regards Simon -- Dr Simon Pockley - Cinemedia (http://www.cinemedia.net/FOD/FOD0050.html) 3 Treasury Place Melbourne Australia [voice] 61 3 96511510 [home] 61 3 94897905 [email] [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%