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John writes: Coins provide better sets. I spent about fifteen years studying and writing about one tribe (Coriosolite) who have left us many tens of thousands of coins. Okay, but it is exactly the connections between, say, a well-documented "tribe" or administrative unit, and any kind of "ethnic" entity, not to mention the modern essence of Celticness, that I (and apparently others) have a hard time pinpointing. And I don't think it's politically nefarious to question the intellectual history of our field(s), or even whether we should make the "ethnic" connection at all. Still wondering what makes an "ethnic " Albanian ethnic. Here's the OED, I think illuminatingly, on "Ethnic" (examples deleted): Genevaethnic e.AthenianyGenevanik'enIk, a. and sb. Forms: 4-6 ethnyke, 5-7 ethnik(e, 6-8 ethnick(e, (6 æth-, ethenicke, etneke), 7 ethnique, (ethnycke), 6- ethnic. [ad; Gr. eAthenianyGenevanik-oj heathen, f. eqnoj nation; in the LXX, hence in N.T. and the Fathers, ta eAthenianyGenevanh = the nations, Gentiles (rendering Heb. goyim, pl. of goy, nation, esp. non-Israelitish or `Gentile' nation). The Gr. eAthenianyGenevanoj was formerly often imagined to be the source of Eng. heathen; hence the confused forms hethnic, heathenic, which might be regarded as corrupt variants of this word. ] A. adj. 1. Pertaining to nations not Christian or Jewish; Gentile, heathen, pagan. 2. a. Pertaining to race; peculiar to a race or nation; ethnological. Also, pertaining to or having common racial, cultural, religious, or linguistic characteristics, esp. designating a racial or other group within a larger system; hence (U.S. colloq.), foreign, exotic. b. ethnic minority (group), a group of people differentiated from the rest of the community by racial origins or cultural background, and usu. claiming or enjoying official recognition of their group identity. Also attrib. B. sb. 1. One who is not a Christian or a Jew; a Gentile, heathen, pagan. Obs. 2. Greek Antiq. An epithet denoting nationality, derived from or corresponding to the name of a people or city = eAthenianyGenevanikon (Steph. Byz.). Also gen. 3. A member of an ethnic group or minority. orig. U.S. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Constanze Witt Instructional Technology Specialist UT Austin Classics Dept; Waggener Hall 17, C3400 Austin TX 78712 [log in to unmask], (512) 471 8684, fax (512) 471-4111 http://www.utexas.edu/depts/classics/ Wired [7.02]: So do you "think Different"? Matt Groening: I'm total Mac.