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Date:         22 Apr 99 20:16:24 PDT
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Dear All,

Dang.

My love for this list, individually and collectively, knows no bounds, 
but it was not really my intention to add 12k of "Love" stationary to my last
post.

I'll figure out what I hit by mistake and try my *very* best not to do it
again (honest).

Meanwhile: sorry.

Love to all from here,

xxxx

Christopher








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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:10:31 +0200
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EINSTEIN FORUM
Einladung zum Vortrag

Johann Kreuzer, 
Gastprofessor fuer Antike Philosophie, Universitaet zu Koeln:

   "Zeit - Erinnerung - Geschichte. Zur Aktualitaet Augustins"

Das Werk Augustins kann als Ausdruck eines grundlegenden geschichtlichen
Umbruchs gelesen werden, der gekennzeichnet ist durch den
Glaubwuerdigkeitsverlust von Paradigmen antiker Theorie und Lebenshaltung.
Hinzu tritt das gleichzeitige Wissen um die Notwendigkeit, neue kulturelle
Verbindlichkeiten zu schaffen und zu begruenden. In dieser
Uebergangssituation distanziert sich Augustin als erster Autor von seiner
eigenen Epoche und von seinen soziokulturellen Wurzeln.

Im Vortrag soll gezeigt werden, dass Augustins Bekenntnis zur eigenen
Individualitaet und Geschichte, seine Analyse dessen, was Erinnerung
bedeutet, sowie die damit verbundene Frage nach der Zeit Anhaltspunkte
dafuer bieten, sein Denken als den Beginn nachantiker Philosophie zu
bezeichnen. In dieser Bereitschaft zu einem paradigmatischen Wandel des
Sinns philosophischer Reflexion besteht auch heute noch die Aktualitaet
Augustins.

Johann Kreuzer beschaeftigte sich nach seiner Promotion ueber Hoelderlin
vorwiegend mit dem Werk Augustins. 1995 veroeffentlichte er "Pulchritudo -
Vom Erkennen Gottes bei Augustin. Bemerkungen zu den Buechern IX, X und XI
der Confessiones".

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:21:04 +0100
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> Jeanne de Toulouse, virgin (fourteenth century)
>- when her body was translated in 1805, a manuscript prayer book
>was found beside her -- does anyone know anything about the practice 
>of burying books with their owners?

The tomb effigy of Eleanor of Aquitaine and Henry II at Fontevrault represents
Eleanor holding open a book - might this be an indication that she had one
buried with her?

Andrew Jotischky
Dept of History
Lancaster University


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:01:35 GMT
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At 14:43 22/04/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Could they be the "Roman Psalter" and the "Gallican Psalter" texts?  

If you are using the Stuttgart version of the Vulgate, they are in fact the
"Gallican" and "Hebraica" versions.  Jerome made three versions of the
psalter in all:  

(1)    the "Roman Psalter" which was a light revision of the Old Latin
version, corrected "cursim" from the Greek;

(2)     the "Gallican Psalter", based on the Septuagint, which is the
version still in liturgical use in churches which still recite the Latin
psalter;  and

(3)     the "Hebraica", translated directly from the Hebrew.  This version
never caught on for liturgical use, but remained, and remains, the province
of scholars.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:17:17 +0100 (BST)
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From:         "Sophie Oosterwijk" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      St Elizabeth of Hungary

Dear listmembers,

I temporarily re-emerge from e-mail limbo to ask if anyone can help 
me with the Middle-German extract below about St Elizabeth of 
Thuringia (Hungary), which I found unreferenced in a book from the 
early 1900s:

Si hiz ir balde machen
Nach fruntlichen sachen
Von silber lodec wize
Mit druwelichen flize
Deme Kinde ein zuberlin,
So ez wehes Kunde sin,
Da man iz inne mohte
Baden wan iz dohte.
Si hiz ouch balde bigen
Von silber eine wigen
In wunderlicher gunste
Nach meisterlicher kunste,
Da man daz Kint in legete,
So iz die amme degete
Unde mit der spune neme war.
(etc.)

If anyone could point me to the source, it would save me a lot of 
trouble and I should be extremely grateful.

Sophie Oosterwijk
Dept of the History of Art
University of Leicester
e-mail:  [log in to unmask]

P.S.  Although George told me it's OK, it still feels terribly 
impolite to me to barge in out of limbo with questions like this (for 
I shall have another one soon).  My apologies!


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:49:19 +0300
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At 08:04 AM 22/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
>California has a delightful example of a non-existent saint in the town
>name San Ardo.  I couldn't figure out who he was, and finally got an
>explanation from the vicar of the Episcopal church there.  The town used to
>be named San Bernardo, after B of Clairvaux.  The post office kept mixing
>it up with the much more important city of San Bernardino, though, and
>finally they shortened San Bernardo to Ardo to avoid confusion.  Maybe
>apocryphal, but an entertaining story.
>
>Phyllis
>
My favorite example is the one cited by Edmond Albe in his book on
Rocamadour. It seems they found once in the Pyrenees a stone with the
inscription S VIAR. The local people were talking about canonization, when
they found out that it had originallly been PRAEFECTUS VIARUM...

Cheers, Esther
Esther Cohen
Professor of Medieval History
Department of History
Hebrew University
Jerusalem, Israel



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During the siege of Leningrad (1941-43) a monk of Abtei Gerleve (Munster)
who called up and in  the Wehrmacht was killed, and was buried by an army
chaplain, who recorded that he was buried with his breviary on his breast.

This enabled his sister (I think it was - I heard the story there in 1996)
to have the right body exhumed and brought back to be buried in his own
monastic graveyard fifty years later.

I doiubt if the officiating chaplain had that purpose in mind, so it
illustrates the possibility of a deeply laid tradition.

Anselm Cramer Osb
Ampleforth Abbey, York
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Date: 23 April 1999 12:01
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>> Jeanne de Toulouse, virgin (fourteenth century)
>>- when her body was translated in 1805, a manuscript prayer book
>>was found beside her -- does anyone know anything about the practice
>>of burying books with their owners?
>
>The tomb effigy of Eleanor of Aquitaine and Henry II at Fontevrault
represents
>Eleanor holding open a book - might this be an indication that she had one
>buried with her?
>
>Andrew Jotischky
>Dept of History
>Lancaster University



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Subject:      PUBL A New Newe Booke of Copies (Fonts)

*A New Newe Booke of Copies*. Font package prepared by Crazy Diamond Design.

I have been asked to review, for the benefit of our list's members, a series of 
fonts, and I must confess to having been apprehensive at the prospect. However, fear 
dissolved into pleasure, which I am happy to share briefly with you.

First of all, this font package arrives not with some poorly printed loose-leaf 
instructions, but a distinctive faux-leather booklet. Indeed, the booklet bears the 
notice: 'This package meets the "Coffee Table Standard" of software and 
documentation. It means that it will look as good on your desktop as it will on your 
coffee table and can act as a focus for those all-important post-dinner 
conversations". How true! Containing clear instructions and descriptions, the booklet 
also has some hilarious illustrations, certain to grace many office doors.

But what is the package REALLY about? This collection of fonts takes its inspiration 
from the 1574 book by Thomas Vautroullier, *A Newe Booke of Copies*. In it were 
'divers sortes of sundry hands, as the English and French Secretarie, and Bastard 
Secretarie, Italian, Roman, Chancery and Court hands ... set forth by the most 
Excellent Wryters of the sayd hands for the instruction of the vnskilfull'. Not only 
are several of these very attractive fonts presented (in Macintosh and Windows 
versions) but they are also remarkably easy to install. Most significantly, many 
abbreviations, superscript characters, ligatures and variant forms are included. 
These features make this product, in my opinion, the most authentic and useful of 
font packages available to medievalists today. These fonts are at once distinctive, 
attractive, accurate and easy to use, and I recommend them to you highly.

I append information I received regarding prices and ordering information.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:12:18 +0100
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An over-enthusiastic spring-clean has led me to delete the reference to a
female pilgrim who was disguised as a boy, entered a Cistercian monastery
and was not discovered to be a woman until her death. Could some kind list
member reinstate it for me - and does anyone know of other examples of
cross-dressing saints? (Men dressing as women would be particularly
interesting!) This is partly a query from m'learned colleague Miranda
Aldhouse-Green who is doing something on cross-dressing deities and was
intrigued to hear of more modern Christian parallels.

Maddy Gray



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Subject:      St Benedict

Dear Listmembers,

May I launch yet another question while you are all still pondering 
about St Elizabeth?

One of the romanesque capitals at Vezelay shows the miracle of St 
Benedict restoring to life the dead son of a peasant.  From an 
iconographic point of view it is difficult to ascertain how old the 
son is supposed to be but I think it may be an infant.  Can anyone 
point me to the source of this story or come up with any references?

Thank you very much in advance for any help you may be able to give 
me on either saint.

Sophie Oosterwijk
Dept of the History of Art
University of Leicester


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Many medieval Christian burials are described as including "scripta," which 
probably means indulgences like the one that was discovered on the breast of 
the fourteenth-century Hainaudian knight Sir Walter de Mauny, founder of the 
London Charterhouse, when that site was excavated and his coffin discovered 
and opened in the 1950s.  A similar document was found in the coffin of
Cecily Neville, duchess of York, when that family's tombs in the collegiate 
church at Fotheringhay were ransacked during the Reformation.

Even for the medieval aristocracy, I'd think that books might be another
matter.  They were not cheap items.  I have read accounts of several
episcopal tombs in England that have been opened in this century and none
of them, as far as I can recollect, contained books, only pastoral staves
and in some cases chalices not of the highest standard of manufacture--similar 
to the gilt-copper grave crowns that were commonly used in royal burials.

John Parsons



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Subject:      Ye Olde Feaste

I cannot but acknowledge with deepest thanks a very kind electronic greeting card I 
have just received from some of the list's most stalwart members. I do so because 
it's a web image of Saint George, and you can see this lovely icon (or send it to 
someone!) at:
http://www1.bluemountain.com/enge/orthodox/GO_stgeorge.html

At the same site, I also found an animated image of George slaying the dragon (with 
appreciative and lovely maiden near by):
http://www1.bluemountain.com/eng3/seasonal/SGDstgeorge.html

George The Unsaintly But Grateful Nonetheless!!

George Ferzoco                   tel ++  44  (0)116  252 2654
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Sounds like Caesarius of Heisterbach, Dialogus Miraculorum. The most 
recent edition is early 19th c., by J. Strange (if I remember rightly 
- don't have my reference to hand). There is an appallingly bad 
English translation by C.S. Bland.
Julia Barrow

Date:          Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:12:18 +0100
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From:          Madeleine Gray <[log in to unmask]>
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An over-enthusiastic spring-clean has led me to delete the reference to a
female pilgrim who was disguised as a boy, entered a Cistercian monastery
and was not discovered to be a woman until her death. Could some kind list
member reinstate it for me - and does anyone know of other examples of
cross-dressing saints? (Men dressing as women would be particularly
interesting!) This is partly a query from m'learned colleague Miranda
Aldhouse-Green who is doing something on cross-dressing deities and was
intrigued to hear of more modern Christian parallels.

Maddy Gray



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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:39:13 +0100 (BST)
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Subject:      medieval-religion at Kalamazoo

Dear medieval-religion colleagues,

I know that this will be hard to believe, but apart from repeated rock-solid 
assurances that our two sessions will indeed be taking place at Kalamazoo, I still 
have not received details as to the date or time of our sessions. Because of the 
increasing difficulty of holding the sessions at a time when all of us can attend, I 
have recently requested the congress organizers to schedule our papers on the Friday 
and/or Saturday. Please, if you have further queries about scheduling, gently address 
them to the congress organizers (who, after all, are doing the best they can, and 
have been very kind to include our sessions) at [log in to unmask]

When I receive a confirmed schedule, I'll forward it to the list at once.

George

PS: I'll also send out, soon, a confirmation regarding the medieval-religion informal 
dinner. This has been tentatively scheduled for the Wednesday evening, and I hope it 
will remain there; however, this may be changed. Stay tuned!

George Ferzoco                   tel ++  44  (0)116  252 2654
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Possibly relevant: the Life of St Stephen of Aubazine, cc. 43-49, ed. Michel
Aubrun, 1970 - boys destined for monastic life being brought up in an
adjacent nunnery until five years old. One boy is fetched by a brother, who
curiously inquired about the women the boy had grown up with. Boy said he'd
never seen women. Would you like to see some real ones, the monk asked,
pointing at some goats grazing in the field. The boy believed him, and upon
reaching Aubazine, he bragged to the other boys in the 'statio puerorum'
that he'd seen real women grazing, to the amusement of youngsters who 'knew
women better, but not in a more salutiferous manner' (c. 47, p. 170).
It's the old theme of children raised in the cloister losing any sense of
gender (cf Jonas of Bobbio, V Columbani, about Burgundofara). It may well
cross with the one of cross-dressing.

Mayke de Jong
Trinity College
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I recommend to all lovers of George & other such figures Robertson Davies'
story "The Refuge of Lost Saints," in his collection High Spirits.  All
the saints reoved from the calendar turn up at his college, complete with
attributes.  George brings both the dragon & the maiden he rescued.  It is
a truly enjoyable story.

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	I only have a popular translation at hand, but the story
corresponds to Benedict's raising of a farmer's son to life in Gregory the
Great's "Life and Miracles of St. Benedict" in the Second Book of his
_Dialogues_ (chapter. 32).
	Best,
	John Shinners


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> Jeanne de Toulouse, virgin (fourteenth century)
>- when her body was translated in 1805, a manuscript prayer book
>was found beside her -- does anyone know anything about the practice 
>of burying books with their owners?

Has anyone yet mentioned the Stoneyhurst Gospels, buried with St 
Cuthbert, or the Coronation Gospels, apparently buried with 
Charlemagne and recovered by Otto II during an examination of his 
body in 1000?
Cheers,
Jim Bugslag


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:10:08 -0400 (EDT)
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I would be most interested in literature on the burial of staves in
episcopal graves. Offhand, this would seem to be an un-surprising
thing to do; but is it? Are bishops commonly buried with croziers
(and what about abbots and abbesses)?
thanks,
meg


> Many medieval Christian burials are described as including "scripta," which
> probably means indulgences like the one that was discovered on the breast of
> the fourteenth-century Hainaudian knight Sir Walter de Mauny, founder of the
> London Charterhouse, when that site was excavated and his coffin discovered
> and opened in the 1950s.  A similar document was found in the coffin of
> Cecily Neville, duchess of York, when that family's tombs in the collegiate
> church at Fotheringhay were ransacked during the Reformation.

> Even for the medieval aristocracy, I'd think that books might be another
> matter.  They were not cheap items.  I have read accounts of several
> episcopal tombs in England that have been opened in this century and none
> of them, as far as I can recollect, contained books, only pastoral staves
> and in some cases chalices not of the highest standard of manufacture--similar
> to the gilt-copper grave crowns that were commonly used in royal burials.

> John Parsons


Margaret Cormack			[log in to unmask]
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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:13:58 -0400 (EDT)
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It seems that, for once, I have a chance to get in ahead
of Carolyne with her informative list of saints.
Today is the feast of St. Jon Ogmundarson of Holar, first
bishop of the diocese of Holar in northern Iceland (1106-1121)
He is, I suspect, unknown outside of Iceland. However,
if any list-member should ever run across a reference to
him, please let me know! The feast of his translation is
March 3.
Margaret Cormack			[log in to unmask]
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Today, 23 April, is the feast of ... 

Felix, Fortunatus and Achilleus, martyrs (212) 

George, martyr, protector of the kingdom of England (303): Throughout
Europe in the later middle ages the *Legenda Aurea* rendition of the
story of St George was the best known. William Caxton translated the
work. In this translation St George's encounter with the halitosisian
dragon is related: One day St George came upon a city near a marshy
swamp. In the swamp lived a dragon which envenomed all the country. The
people had mustered together to kill it, but the dragon's breath was so
bad that all the people ran away. To prevent the dragon coming closer to
the city they fed it two sheep each day (I hope they included mint, it's
good for bad breath and it goes well with mutton!). But when the people
no longer had any sheep, they had no choice but to feed the dragon a
human being. The victim was selected by lot, and the lot had fallen on
the king's daughter. No one was willing to take her place, and the
maiden had gone forth dressed as a bride to meet her doom. Then St
George rode into town. Coming upon the princess making her way toward
the beast, he attacked the dragon and impaled it on his lance. 

Ibar, bishop of Beggery (fifth century): Ibar is best known for his
association with the island of Beg-Eire (Beggery), where he had a famous
monastic school. 

Gerard, bishop of Toul (994): Gerard pursued the policy of his
predecessor St Gauzlin in endeavouring to make Toul a centre of
learning. To this end he invited Greek and Irish monks to settle in his
diocese. 

Adalbert, bishop of Prague, martyr (997): Was wont to say: "It is easy
to wear a mitre and carry a crosier, but it is a terrible thing to have
to give account of a bishopric to the Judge of the living and the dead."
With his two companions, Benedict and Gaudentius, he made some converts
in Danzig, but met with great opposition since these preachers were
regarded by many as spies. But they refused to abandon their preaching
mission and were martyred. 

Giles of Assisi, companion of Francis of Assisi (1262): Though unlearned
and simple, Giles was endowed with an infused wisdom which led many to
seek him out for spiritual consultation. Experience soon taught those
who sought his advice to avoid certain topics or words, the very mention
of which sent the friar into an ecstasy. Even the street urchins knew
this, and whenever they caught sight of Giles they would shout
"Paradise! Paradise" and await the desired reaction. 

Helen of Udine, tertiary of the Hermits of St Augustine (1458): Helen
was happily married for twenty-five years and the mother of several
children. After her husband's death, in her fortieth year she decided to
become a tertiary of the Hermits of St Augustine. Helen took a vow of
perpetual silence, which she observed all year round except on Christmas
night. (However, her vow of silence was not extended to her household
which included her servants and sister.) Udine was terrified of loud
noises and was beset by the temptation to commit suicide. She appears to
have been endowed with the gift of healing. 

AND Margaret Cormack reminded of the following saint:

Jon Ogmundarson, first bishop of Holar (the diocese
of northern Iceland). An english translation of his
vita and a few miracles will be forthcoming in the
Garland collection of translated lives being edited
by Tom Head.

*************
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 1 April, is the feast of ...

* Melito, bishop of Sardis (c. 180) - His name occurs in some of the old
martyrologia, he was unmarried, but beyond that nothing is known of his
life or death.

* Walaricus or Valery, abbot (c. 620) - William the Conqueror has
Walaricus's body publicly exposed so that the saintly relics might
obtain favourable wind for William's English expedition.

* Macarius the Wonder Worker (c. 830) - A model monk, he was chosen
abbot of the monastery of Pelekete where he soon became famous for his
miracles and healing. Crowds flocked to Pelekete to be cured of diseases
both of body and mind. Ended his days banished to the island of Aphusia
off the shore of Bithynia.

* Hugh, bishop of Grenoble (1132) - Temptations to blasphemy sometimes
beset him causing him great distress. He told this to Gregory VII who
reassured Hugh by explaining that God permitted these trials to purify
him and render him a more fitting instrument for divine purposes.

* Hugh of Bonnevaux, abbot (1194) - Had the power to read minds and was
quick to detect any evil spirit which had access to the minds of his
brethren.

* Gilbert of Caithness, steward and patriot (1245) - Built several
hospices for the poor as well as the cathedral of Dornoch

* Catherine of Palma, virgin (1574) - Like Hugh, bishop of Grenoble,
Catherine was also tempted to blasphemy. Better known for her trances
and gift of prophecy. 

* Catus, tabby tom (date unknown) - only animal to be canonized, invoked
to cure hairballs

Poisson d'avril!

* * * * * * * * * * *
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 2 April, is the feast of ...

* Apphianus and Theodosia, martyrs (306) - After withstanding numerous
tortures, Apphianus was thrown into the sea whereupon the sea was shaken
by an earthquake, and though the saint's feet were weighted down by
heavy stones, his body was cast up on the shore.

* Mary of Egypt, penitent, and Zosimus, monk (fifth century?)
- platonic friends - Zosimus found Mary in the desert dead with the
following words traced in the sand next to her body: "Father Zosimus
bury the body of the lowly Mary. Render earth to earth and pray for me.
I died the night of the Lord's Passion, after receiving the divine and
mystic Banquet." The monk had no spade but a lion from the desert came
to his assistance and with its claws helped him dig Mary's grave.

* Nicetius or Nizier, bishop of Lyon (537) - Great-uncle to Gregory of
Tours. A determined opponent of loose and uncharitable speech, which he
denounced on every possible occasion. He became famous for exorcising
unclean spirits; revived and improved ecclesiastical chant in his
diocese.

* Francis of Paola, founder, order of Minims (1507) - In addition to the
three usual monastic vows, he imposed upon the Minims a fourth vow -
perpetual fasting with abstinence not only from meat but from eggs and
anything made with milk. (Any other vegan like Orders? I know that the
Cathars were vegans with the exception of the consumption of fish which
they believed was the product of water and not coition.) To avoid 'minim
confusion', let me explain the name of the Order. At first they were
called the Hermits of St Francis of Assisi, and it was not until 1492
that their name was changed to that of 'Minims' at the desire of the
founder, who wished his followers to be reckoned as the least (minimi)
in the household of God.

********************
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Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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UK
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Dear Colleagues,

Are there any good treatments of leprosy, especially its symbolic
associations, in the M.A. other than Brody's "Disease of the Soul" and
parts of Moore's "Formation of a Persecuting Society," either book-length
or article-length?

Many thanks.
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Dear Patrick,

The following two books might be of some use:

Francoise Beriac, Histoire des lepreux au moyen age: Une societe
d'exclus (Paris: Imago, 1988),

and 

Nicole Beriou and Francois-Olivier Touati, Voluntate dei leprosus: Les
Lepreux entre conversion et exclusion aux xiieme et xiiieme siecles.
Testi, Studi, Strumenti 4 (Spoleto, 1991). This one contains several
sermons on leprosy. 

Good luck!
Carolyn


Dr Carolyn Muessig
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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Patrick Nugent wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> Are there any good treatments of leprosy, especially its symbolic
> associations, in the M.A. other than Brody's "Disease of the Soul" and
> parts of Moore's "Formation of a Persecuting Society," either book-length
> or article-length?
> 
> Many thanks.
> __________________________________
> Patrick J. Nugent
> Department of Religion
> Earlham College
> Richmond, Indiana 47374 USA
> 
> (765) 983-1413
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See Jeffrey Richards, __Sex, Dissidence, and Damnation: Minority Groupsin the
Middle Ages (Routledge, 1990).  Fairly good coverage, despite a deplorable
dearth of notation.


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At 10:26 23.04.99 -0500, you wrote:
>Are there any good treatments of leprosy, especially its symbolic
>associations, in the M.A. other than Brody's "Disease of the Soul" and
>parts of Moore's "Formation of a Persecuting Society," either book-length
>or article-length?

Dear Patrick,

I myself have not yet read, but you can try:

RICHARDS Peter
   The Medieval Leper. Boydell and Brewer, 1977, repr. Barnes
   and Noble, 1955
BE/RIOU & TOUATI
   Nicole Be/riou & François-Olivier Touati,
   "Voluntate Dei leprosus": les le/preux entre conversion et
   exclusion aux XIIme et XIIIme sie\cles, Spoleto: CISAM,
   1991, viii+170 pp.

Maybe also of interest (but I have not checked references to leper
specifically):

*ASPECTS DE LA MARGINALITE/
   Aspects de la marginalite/ au Moyen Age. Ed. Guy H. Allard,
   Montreal 1975
*EXCLUS
   *Exclus et syste\mes d'exclusion dans la litte/rature et la
   civilisation me/die/vales. Aix-en-Provence & Paris: E/dition
   CUERMA, 1978 (= Senefiance 5)


If you are interested in the patristic/medieval exegesis of the "ulcera" of
Lazarus (Lc 16,18ss.), I can supply you with some materials.

Yours,

  Otfried

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Dear Sophie,
Try the biography of St Elizabeth by Montalembert (but this may have been 
your source?), which is full of all kinds of citations and information, and 
Analecta hymnica medii aevi, which includes the texts of many Latin offices 
and hymns to St Elizabeth. Your Middle German text might be a translation.
Sincerely,
Barbara Haggh-Huglo
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:17:17 +0100 (BST) Sophie Oosterwijk 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear listmembers,
> 
> I temporarily re-emerge from e-mail limbo to ask if anyone can help 
> me with the Middle-German extract below about St Elizabeth of 
> Thuringia (Hungary), which I found unreferenced in a book from the 
> early 1900s:
> 
> Si hiz ir balde machen
> Nach fruntlichen sachen
> Von silber lodec wize
> Mit druwelichen flize
> Deme Kinde ein zuberlin,
> So ez wehes Kunde sin,
> Da man iz inne mohte
> Baden wan iz dohte.
> Si hiz ouch balde bigen
> Von silber eine wigen
> In wunderlicher gunste
> Nach meisterlicher kunste,
> Da man daz Kint in legete,
> So iz die amme degete
> Unde mit der spune neme war.
> (etc.)
> 
> If anyone could point me to the source, it would save me a lot of 
> trouble and I should be extremely grateful.
> 
> Sophie Oosterwijk
> Dept of the History of Art
> University of Leicester
> e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> 
> P.S.  Although George told me it's OK, it still feels terribly 
> impolite to me to barge in out of limbo with questions like this (for 
> I shall have another one soon).  My apologies!




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On Jon of Holar, see Stephan Kuttner, "St.John of Holar:  Canon Law and
Hagiography in Medieval Iceland," Analecta Cracoviensia 7 (1976): 367-75;
reprinted in idem, The History of Ideas and Doctrines in the Middle Ages
(Variorum Pr, 1980).

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George,

Can you at least give us the line-up for the sessions so the rest of us
will know what we have to look forward to, if not when?

Thanks, Carol

At 03:39 PM 4/23/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>Dear medieval-religion colleagues,
>
>I know that this will be hard to believe, but apart from repeated rock-solid 
>assurances that our two sessions will indeed be taking place at Kalamazoo,
I still 
>have not received details as to the date or time of our sessions. 



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On Web try:

www.wmich.edu/medieval/congress/34congress/coverupdate.htm

Which links to Table of contents for the program.

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It was hagiographically necessary for Benedict to raise the child to life,
because of the parallel seen between monks and prophets, and between Elijah
and Benedict (or other Patres). The root of the story lies in 1 Kings 17.17.
And the meaning of that is symbolic, too: it is part of the life-giving
character of God.

a.c.
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> I only have a popular translation at hand, but the story
>corresponds to Benedict's raising of a farmer's son to life in Gregory the
>Great's "Life and Miracles of St. Benedict" in the Second Book of his
>_Dialogues_ (chapter. 32).
> Best,
> John Shinners
>
>
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I was just about to agree with John Parsons.... 

>Even for the medieval aristocracy, I'd think that books might be another
matter.  They were not cheap items.  

...but then the examples cited by Jim Bugslag raised the possibility of not
just your ordinary, garden-variety, 1,000 man-hour book being given 
up to the shades, but (presumably) rather sumptious, illuminated hi tomes as
well(?).

If this were the case, then perhaps it was--in these exceptional cases at
least--a matter of the books being burried with their (?)patrons not *in spite
of* the fact that they were expensive, but rather *because* such an act was,
as it were, the ultimate in consipicuous consumption.

Re John's point about episcopal [and, by extension, abbatial] regalia being
included in the tomb.....

>I have read accounts of several episcopal tombs in England that have 
been opened in this century and none of them, as far as I can recollect,
contained books, only pastoral staves and in some cases chalices not of the
highest standard of manufacture--similar to the gilt-copper grave crowns that
were commonly used in royal burials.


...jogs a memory that burials *might* even be the primary source for surviving
staves and crosses, and that seal (=?signet?) rings were also quite commonly
(I believe) burried with their owners. 

Twelfth century examples include Maurice of Sully at Paris (whose ring [with
an ancient carved jemstone??] is now, I believe, in the 
Bibliotheque Nationale _medailles_ collection), and Godfrey of Leves at
Chartres.

Of course, in the case of rings used for sealing, an added consideration was
the necessity of insuring that the dead bishop's private seal was safely taken
out of circulation. 

Though some years ago I mare's nested myself into believing that Bishop
Godfrey's seal might have been unearthed a couple of generations later 
and (piously) re-used by an early 13th c. Chanter of the cathedral.

But I was so much older then; I'm younger than that, now.

Best to all from here,

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Dear Sophie Oosterwijk,

As you may know, there is at Fleury, in addition to the capitals of the
magnificent Westwork, a fine "Early Gothic" sculpted portal on the North side
of the nave, carved, I believe, a generation or two after your Vezelay cap
(easiest access to photos and pre-70's literature is probably in Sauerlander).

The lintel has two miracle scenes, the only one of which I can recall is of
the monks carrying the "chaisse" containing the saint's relics through the
winter countryside to their new home on the Loire, at which time the landscape
burst into flower ("Fleury", get it??). 
Lovely story.

There are also, I believe, historiated scenes in the archivolts which *might*
include another depiction of your miracle.

Best from here,

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>Sounds like Caesarius of Heisterbach, Dialogus Miraculorum. The most
>recent edition is early 19th c., by J. Strange (if I remember rightly
>- don't have my reference to hand).

Cologne:  Heberle, 1851.  An old friend from dissertation days (the
edition, not Caesarius!)   :-)

Steven Botterill

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>
>George, martyr, protector of the kingdom of England (303): Throughout
>Europe in the later middle ages the *Legenda Aurea* rendition of the
>story of St George was the best known. William Caxton translated the
>work. In this translation St George's encounter with the halitosisian
>dragon is related: One day St George came upon a city near a marshy
>swamp. 

The story of St George and the Dragon appears to be a conflation of the
legends of two local heroes.  George really existed, and was a native of
Lydda in Palestine.  Another native of Lydda, according to local tradition,
was Perseus, who slew the dragon and rescued the maiden Andromeda.  The two
heroes seem to have got mixed up, and the result was George killing the
dragon.  It's rather a pity that such an admirable martyr should have been
confused with a mythical hero.

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Dear Sophie!

In my opinion, your text is from the middle high german "Die heilige
Elisabeth", a legend of a few 1000 verses, written about in 1300.
UNfortunately, I haven't the edition at hand. I hope this helps you.

Regards,

Tobias Kemper




> Try the biography of St Elizabeth by Montalembert (but this may have been
> your source?), which is full of all kinds of citations and information, and
> Analecta hymnica medii aevi, which includes the texts of many Latin offices
> and hymns to St Elizabeth. Your Middle German text might be a translation.
> Sincerely,
> Barbara Haggh-Huglo
> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:17:17 +0100 (BST) Sophie Oosterwijk
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Dear listmembers,
> >
> > I temporarily re-emerge from e-mail limbo to ask if anyone can help
> > me with the Middle-German extract below about St Elizabeth of
> > Thuringia (Hungary), which I found unreferenced in a book from the
> > early 1900s:
> >
> > Si hiz ir balde machen
> > Nach fruntlichen sachen
> > Von silber lodec wize
> > Mit druwelichen flize
> > Deme Kinde ein zuberlin,
> > So ez wehes Kunde sin,
> > Da man iz inne mohte
> > Baden wan iz dohte.
> > Si hiz ouch balde bigen
> > Von silber eine wigen
> > In wunderlicher gunste
> > Nach meisterlicher kunste,
> > Da man daz Kint in legete,
> > So iz die amme degete
> > Unde mit der spune neme war.
> > (etc.)
> >
> > If anyone could point me to the source, it would save me a lot of
> > trouble and I should be extremely grateful.
> >
> > Sophie Oosterwijk
> > Dept of the History of Art
> > University of Leicester
> > e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> >
> > P.S.  Although George told me it's OK, it still feels terribly
> > impolite to me to barge in out of limbo with questions like this (for
> > I shall have another one soon).  My apologies!

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Dear colleagues,

I am in a pickle and wonder if a kind soul could help me out.  I
desperately need the Latin text of Augustine "de spiritu et littera,"
sections 52-54; is there someone who has access to the PL database who
might kindly send me those sections?  Is it ethical or legal  even to ask?
I'm not sure what the copyright restrictions on this kind of thing are; it
is for a single-occasion personal use for scholarly purposes and not for
distribution.  Does that help?

Usually I'd get it by interlibrary loan, but I need it much sooner than
that system can get it to me.

Many thanks,


Patrick.



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Sorry to cross post, but I'm trying to solicit as much advice as I can
on this.

I've been possibly tapped to teach an interdisciplinary Comparative
Lit/History course this summer entitled Medieval World.  I've already
decided on a few major texts to cover, to include Cantor's Civilization
of the Middle Ages (it's a GE course as well as an upper-division
course, so I wanted a more general history--if anyone has any
inexpensive suggestions as a replacement, please opine), The Song of
Roland, The Death of King Arthur, Julian of Norwich, Chaucer/Boccaccio
(selections), and The Inferno, with possibly a Viking saga as well,
depending on if I can make it fir.

But, what I need is some sort of anthology to supplement this.  I'd like
something that has some Augustine, Boethius, Aquinas, et. al., as well
as some poetry of the Troubadours, Latin verses, other short verses
(perhaps to include some Anglo-Saxon poetry and some Middle English
Lyrics), and maybe a few excepts from contemporary historical accounts.
I have Cantor's "Medieval Reader," but it falls short in the literature
department, and the excerpts it does include are too short, in my
opinion.

I've scoured publishers' catalogs, and can find nothing like what I'm
looking for.  Am I just deluding myself that such an anthology exists
and is still in print?

Also, I recall Penguin used to publish a selection of Medieval Latin
poetry--but, it is no longer in their catalog, and I cannot find it in
the bookstores.  Has that, too, gone out of print?

Sorry this is neither strictly religious nor strictly Anglo-Saxon, but I
need to submit a proposed syllabus ASAP, and my desperation is building.



Thanks,

Ron Ganze
CSU, Long Beach



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I have been using Paul Halsall's Medieval Sourcebook on the web.  I have found
it very useful because you can pick from lots of different sources and can
change assignments mid-course if you get a different idea, students have
aparticular interest, etc.  This is assuming your students have general
computer access.  --Mary Suydam


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Dear Christopher Crockett and Otfried Lieberknecht,
Thank you for your generous supply of information. I am still working 
through some of it as it multiplies every time I read a footnote. 

I don't know if you will be at the dinner at Kalamazoo, I'd love to 
share my ideas and pictures with you and get your feedback, but I'm swamped 
until then.

Just wanted to get closure and say thanks.

Pat McGurk
Patricia McGurk    Tel. (Home) 1-612-784-8710
Dept. of German, Scandinavian and Dutch
University of Minnesota
205 Folwell Hall
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>And let us not forget St Op, patron saint of crossroads; 
>nor the holy St Igmata.
>
>Bill.


           Dear Bill:

        I am curious about this saint of crossroads. Could you send us some
bibliographical references or any information concerning his history?

        Thanks in advance

        Carlos (living in a land where crossroads are basic in "pop. religion")



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        I know of some examples in Late Gothic funerary sculpture which
portrait the difunt resting his head on books instead of the typical
pillows, but it is hard to say whether or not this means a copy of what
happened with the  corpse.

        Carlos
        
        

        



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>But, what I need is some sort of anthology to supplement this.  I'd like
>something that has some Augustine, Boethius, Aquinas, et. al., as well
>as some poetry of the Troubadours, Latin verses, other short verses
>(perhaps to include some Anglo-Saxon poetry and some Middle English
>Lyrics), and maybe a few excepts from contemporary historical accounts.
>I have Cantor's "Medieval Reader," but it falls short in the literature
>department, and the excerpts it does include are too short, in my
>opinion.
>
>I've scoured publishers' catalogs, and can find nothing like what I'm
>looking for.  Am I just deluding myself that such an anthology exists
>and is still in print?
>
>Also, I recall Penguin used to publish a selection of Medieval Latin
>poetry--but, it is no longer in their catalog, and I cannot find it in
>the bookstores.  Has that, too, gone out of print?

Do you know Harrington's "Medieval Latin" (Chicago)?  Contains inter al.
Sulpicius Severus, Jordanes, Gregory of Tours, Venantius Fortunatus, Gregory
the Great, Isidore, Bede, Paul the Deacon, Alcuin, the Waltharius, Drama,
Cambridge Songs, Abelard, G. of Monmouth, Matthew Paris, goliardic verse,
and many others.

Also the excellent Oxford Book of Medieval Latin Verse (ed. Raby)?

The Supple Doctor.



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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:12:18 +0100, Madeleine Gray wrote:

>An over-enthusiastic spring-clean has led me to delete the reference to a
>female pilgrim who was disguised as a boy, entered a Cistercian monastery
>and was not discovered to be a woman until her death. Could some kind list
>member reinstate it for me - and does anyone know of other examples of
>cross-dressing saints? (Men dressing as women would be particularly
>interesting!) This is partly a query from m'learned colleague Miranda
>Aldhouse-Green who is doing something on cross-dressing deities and was
>intrigued to hear of more modern Christian parallels.
>
>Maddy Gray
>
Dear Maddy Gray,

are you looking for Hildegund von Schoenau (+ 1188)? A good book about Hildegund with examples of other 
cross-dressing women is:

Andrea Liebers, "Eine Frau war dieser Mann". Die Geschichte der Hildegund von Schoenau, Zuerich, 1989

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> and does anyone know of other examples of
> >cross-dressing saints?
>

Andronicus was a silversmith in Antioch.  After the death of their
children, he and his wife Athanasia separated to become hermits.  Some
time later, Andronicus met a beardless monk called Athanasius; the two
became fast friends and lived side by side for years, fasting and
praying together, until Athanasius died, leaving a note which revealed
the secret kept for years....

Also in Antioch (Is there a pattern here?) lived an exotic dancer by the
name of Pelagia, who was converted and went to Jerusalem where she lived
until her death as the monk Pelagius.

I am sure Joan of Arc has been mentioned in this connection; but it
seems to me there is another, much earlier, saint lurking at the edge of
consciousness who also dressed in drag to protect herself against men's
lusts.  I will see if I can lure her into revealing herself.

Off the top of my head I don't have sources for these, but I will see
what I can find and get back to you on this, if these are indeed the
types of  examples you are looking for.

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> >And let us not forget St Op, patron saint of crossroads;
> >nor the holy St Igmata.
> >
> >Bill.
>
This is the St Op who is portrayed in art with a red octagonal shield on
which her name is printed in white uppercase letters?

Do we see here perhaps an conflation of Hecate, who was worshipped at
crossroads, with Ops, who as a deity of fertility and wealth was also a
chthonic figure, giving her name to a saint?



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About leprosy and its relationship to marginal groups, see also another
work of that intelligent Francoise Beriac (acute e) Des lepreux aux
Cagots.  Recherches sur les societes marginales en Aquitaine medievale.
Bordeaux 1990.  I've only read the first half, but it is going very well,
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Thanks to everyone for your help so far--I've looked into the possibility of
e-texts, and researched the new Norton Anthology of World Masterpieces, which
includes four of the works I wanted to assign in their entirety as well as a
healthy selection of medieval verse translated from Latin and the various
vernaculars.  It also includes some Augustine and Aquinas, an excerpt from one
of the Viking sagas, and some medieval folk-tales.  Almost what I'm looking for
all in one volume.  Almost.

It falls short in the Arthurian department, containing only Marie de France,
Gawain, and selections from Malory--because I am constrained by the course
outline to focus more on Continental lit than British, I wanted to use French
versions of Arthur to fulfill that requirement, and Marie doesn't provide enough
to do an entire week on Arthur, as I had hoped.

Some of the other options, such as Bill East's suggestion of the Harrington are
appreciated, but the problem is that these summer classes are always iffy to
fill, and the more I ask them to spend on texts, the more likely it is that the
class will close because of low enrollment.  Sad, but true, and as I recall, the
Harrington is close to $30.  Combined with the individual texts, that's
approaching $125 for the course.

I'm currently in contact with my Norton rep to try and arrange some sort of
package deal--and I am most definitely going to include an online component to
the course.  Can anyone remind me of where the Medieval Misconceptions site is
again?  I had to reformat my hard drive, and all of my old bookmarks have
vanished to wherever lost information goes, presupposing, of course, that the
universe is a closed system.


Again, much thanks,

Ron Ganze



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I love it when someone asks a question I can actually answer.  The
misconceptions site is at:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Musee/3206/Misconceptions.html

Carol

At 11:20 AM 4/24/1999 -0700, you (Ron Ganze) wrote:
>
>the course.  Can anyone remind me of where the Medieval Misconceptions
site is
>again?  I had to reformat my hard drive, and all of my old bookmarks have
>vanished to wherever lost information goes, presupposing, of course, that the
>universe is a closed system.
>
>
>Again, much thanks,
>
>Ron Ganze



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Dear All,

Thanks so much for your helpful replies regarding burying books with
patrons. It gives a new meaning to good bedtime reading.

Yours,
Carolyn

Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
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Today, 24 April, is the feast of ... 

Ivo, bishop (no date): Since before 1281, Ivo has been regarded as the
patron of Saint Ive, near Liskeard in east Cornwall. 

Mellitus, archbishop of Canterbury (624): Was a Roman abbot whom Pope
Gregory the Great sent to England in 601 as the head of a second band of
missionaries to assist St Augustine. 

Egbert, bishop (729): By his patient reasoning, he convinced the monks
of Iona to accept the Roman use in regard to the great paschal
controversy. 

William Firmatus, hermit (1090): Animals played a great role in
William's life, in particular an ape and a boar. William was converted
to the religious life after having a dream in which he saw an ape
sitting upon a money chest. He interpreted this ape as a symbol for his
tendency to avarice. William, like many other saints, had a great power
over animals. In fact he was able to convert a destructive boar into a
tame and God-fearing animal by making the boar fast for twenty-four
hours. 

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Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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Today, 25 April, is the feast of ... 

Mark, evangelist (74): The city of Venice claims to possess the body of
St Mark which is supposed to have been brought there from Alexandria
early in the ninth century. Mark's emblem the lion, like the emblems of
the other evangelists, is a very early tradition. Already in the time of
Augustine and Jerome, the four living creatures of the Apocalypse were
held to be typical of the evangelists. 

Last year the The Supple Doctor aka Doctor Elasticus aka Oriens aka Bill
East added the following as usual helpful information:

>From H.B. Swete's commentary on St Mark (Macmillan, London, 1913) 
- rather old now, and for most purposes superceded by Vincent Taylor's
commentary -  but I still find it useful on certain points. Introduction
p. xxxvi ff.:-

"Another indication of the attitude of the ancient Church towards the
Gospel of St Mark is found in the distribution of the evangelical
symbols among the four Evangelists. From the time of Irenaeus the four
Gospels were associated in Christian thought with the four Cherubim of
Ezekiel, and the corresponding Zoa ('living creatures') of the
Apocalypse. Irenaeus (iii.11.8) quotes the Apocalypse only, but he calls
the lving creatures Cherubim, and refers to Ps. lxxix (lxxx) 2 . . . It
is the Eternal Word, he says, Who sits upon the Cherubim, and their
fourfold manner of operation (pragmateia, dispositio); the lion answers
to his royal office and sovereign authority and executive power; the
calf symbolises his sacrificial and priestly character; the human face,
his coming in human nature; the flying eagle, the gift of the Spirit
descending on His Church. The Gospels according,y, which reflect the
likeness of Christ, possess the same characteristics; St John sets forth
the Lord's princely and glorious generation from the Father, St Luke
emphasises his priestly work, St Matthew his human descent, St Mark his
prophetic office . . .

"Thus Irenaeus, it is clear, regards the Eagle as the symbol of St Mark,
whilst St Matthew, St Luke and St John are represented by the Man, the
Calf and the Lion respectively. This interpretation of the symbols is
followed in the lines prefixed to the Gospel-paraphrase of Juvencus,
according to which

Marcus amat terras inter caelumque volare,
Et vehemens aquila stricto secat omnia lapsu.

"But the method by which it is reached is so arbitrary that later
writers did not hesitated to rearrange them at discretion. Thus in the
notes on the Apocalypse attributed to Victorinus of Pettau the Eagle is
assigned to St John and the Lion to St Mark. Through the influence of
Jerome this became the popular view . . .

"Other arrangements were freely proposed. Thus in the Pseudo-Athanasian
Synopsis Matthew is the Man, Mark the calf, Luke the lion, John the
eagle. Augustine finds the lion in Matthew, the man in Mark, the calf in
Luke, the eagle in John . . .

"A table will show the extent of these variations:

Irenaeus Victorinus Augustine Ps-Athanasius

Mt. Man Man Lion Man
Mc. Eagle Lion Man Calf
Lc. Calf Calf Calf Lion
Jo. Lion Eagle Eagle Eagle

"It will be seen at a glance that while in three out of the four
distributions St Matthew is the Man, St Luke the Calf, and St John the
Eagle, to St Mark each of the symbols is assigned in turn. This fact
illustrates with curious precision the difficulty which the ancient
Church experienced in forming a definite judgement as to the place and
office of his Gospel . . ."


Anianus, bishop of Alexandria (first century): According to the
so-called "Acts of Mark" Anianus, the second bishop of Alexandria had
been a shoemaker who seriously wounded his hand with an awl. His hand
was healed by Mark the evangelist. 

Heribald, bishop of Auxerre (857): An ancient Gallican martyrology
relates that the light of Heribald's virtues, although hidden for long
time in a monastic cell, afterwards spread its rays over the whole of
Gaul. 

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Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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Today, 26 April, is the feast of ... 

Cletus, pope and martyr (91) 

Marcellinus, pope and martyr (304) 

Peter, bishop of Braga (?): A disciple of St James the Greater.
Consecrated as the first bishop of Braga. Suffered martyrdom after he
had cured the leprosy of a king's daughter. 

Richarius or Riquier, abbot (645) 

Paschasius Radbertus, abbot of Corbie (860): Radbertus was adopted by
the nuns of Notre-Dame at Soissons after he had been left on their
doorstep as a motherless babe. He grew up to be one of the most prolific
writers of the ninth century. Amongst his works are commentaries on
Matthew and on the forty-fourth psalm, a treatise on the book of
*Lamentations*, the vitae of the abbot St Adalhard and his brother Wala,
and *De corpore et Sanguine Christi*.

John I, bishop of Valence (1146) 

Franca of Piacenza, abbess (1218): As a young woman, Franca became
abbess of the Benedictine convent St Syrus of Piacenza. For a short time
all went well. But the zealous young abbess soon began to tighten the
reins of discipline, prohibiting such practices as the cooking of
vegetables in wine. She was deposed. Eventually she moved to a
Cistercian foundation where her austere practices were venerated by her
community. 

Dominic and Gregory, Dominican friars (1300): Preached the Gospel in
Aragon. Their labours were carried out in remote districts among the
hill folk inhabiting the steep southern spurs of the Pyrenees. Barefoot,
they went from hamlet to hamlet preaching. They had taken refuge under a
cliff in a severe thunderstorm where they became victims of a rock
avalanche. The ringing of bells startled the inhabitants of the nearest
villages, and a strange light revealed the scene of the catastrophe. The
bodies of the two missionaries were recovered and buried at Besiano
where they have ever since been venerated. 

Alda or Aldobrandesca, widow (1309): After her husband's death she gave
away all her possessions and devoted herself to nursing the sick and
poor. She often experienced ecstasies. When she was first seen in a
state of trance resembling catalepsy, some people were sceptical and
started to pinch her, pierce her with needles and apply lighted candles
to her hands. When she recovered consciousness she felt intense pain
from the wounds that had been inflicted, but all she said to her
tormentors was: "God forgive you." 

Stephen, bishop of Perm (1396): Stephen was a very worthy successor of
SS Cyril and Methodius, and his missionary methods are reminiscent of
theirs. He believed that every people should worship God in its own
tongue, since languages also are from God. One of his first undertakings
was to translate the liturgical services into the language of the
Zyriane. 

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Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 3 April, is the feast of ...

* Pancras, bishop of Taormina, martyr (c. 90?) - A native of Antioch,
Pancras was converted and baptized together with his parents by St
Peter, who sent him to evangelize Sicily, consecrating him the first
bishop of Taormina.

* Sixtus or Xystus I, pope and martyr (c. 127) - The *Liber
Pontificalis* credits him with having laid down as ordinances that none
but the clergy should touch the sacred vessels, and that people should
join in when the priest had intoned the Sanctus at Mass. (In regard to
who could and could not touch sacred vessels does anyone know of any
studies pertaining to this topic in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries
in Northern Europe?)


* Agape, Chionia and Irene, virgins and martyrs (304) - Three
sisters martyred for refusing to give up their volumes of Holy
Scriptures.

* Burgundofara or Fare, abbess (657) - The convent of Evoriacum of which
she was abbess followed the Rule of St Columban. After the death of
Burgundofara, the convent was renamed in her honour and developed into
the celebrated Benedictine abbey of Faremoutiers. 

* Nicetas, abbot (824) - Banished to an island for refusing to support
the iconoclastic Emperor Leo the Armenian.

* Richard of Wyche, bishop of Chichester (1253) - Invited by St
Edmund Rich and Robert Grosseteste to become their chancellor. Richard 
accepted the offer and became the close companion and right-hand man of 
St Edmund Rich. In the words of the Dominican Ralph Bocking, Richard's
confessor and biographer: "Each leaned upon the other - the saint upon
the saint: the master upon the disciple, the disciple upon the master:
the father on the son, and the son on the father." Richard was a strict
vegetarian, but would serve meat to his visitors; when he saw poultry or
young animals being conveyed to his kitchen he was wont to say: "Poor
little creatures, if you were reasoning beings and could speak, how you
would curse us! For we are the cause of your death, and what have you
done to deserve it?" (I think most guest probably took the hint and
changed  their order to pasta instead.) Canonized only nine years after
his death.

* Gandulf of Binasco, franciscan (1260) - Lived as a hermit only to
emerge from time to time to preach. Once while he was preaching at
Polizzi, the sparrows chattered so loudly that the congregation could
not hear the sermon. Gandulf appealed to the birds to be quiet and they
kept silent until the end of the service. On that occasion he told the
people to whom he was preaching that he would die soon. And immediately
after leaving the audience he become ill and died on Holy Saturday.
Afterward, when his body had been enshrined, a number of swallows flew
into the church and sung the Te Deum in alternating choirs. 

* John of Penna, franciscan (1271) - Won all hearts by his exemplary
life and courteous manner. 

* * * * * * * *
Dr Carolyn Muessig
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University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
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Gower's tomb at Southwark cathedral has him pillowed on his own works.
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Gower's tomb at Southwark cathedral has him pillowed on his own works.
tom izbicki

Sir Thomas Bodley's tomb in Merton College Chapel, Oxford, has him 
framed by "pilasters" formed of stacked books, neither his own works 
nor the Gospels, but the likes of Donatus, Diomedes and Priscianus - 
a grammatically perfect vision of heaven!
Cheers,
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On lepers in the Middle Ages...

There is an article in the Zeitschrift der Savigny-Stiftung fur
Rechtsgecshichte, Kanonistische Abteilung LIII, 1967 on the 
subject: Friedrich Merzbacher: Die Leprosen im alten 
kanonischen Recht, pp. 487-511.

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Today, 4 April, is the feast of ...

* Agathopus and Theodulus, martyrs (303) - In the Roman Martyrology
there is the following entry: "At Thessalonica, of the holy martyrs
Agathopus, deacon, and Theodulus, lector, who under the Emperor Maximian
and the governor Faustinus were for their confession of the Christian
faith drowned in the sea with stones tied to their necks."

* Isidore, bishop of Seville, doctor (636) - Isidore's early training is
reminiscent of the fruitful discussion that Thomas Sullivan introduced
to the medieval-religion a few weeks ago concerning slapping as a means
of reinforcing one's memory. As a boy Isidore was educated by his
brother Leander who would often slap Isidore whenever the future
encyclopaedist had trouble remembering his lessons. The system at any
rate had good results for Isidore became the most learned man of his
age, and what is even more remarkable in the circumstances, an ardent
educationist. Now isn't that a slap in the face! 

* Tigernach, bishop (549) - Although consecrated bishop at Clogher in
Ireland, he lived at the monastery of Clones which he had founded.
Consequently he was surnamed "Fer da chrich" - man of two districts.

* Plato, abbot (814) - Abbot of the monastery of Symboleon on Mount
Olympus and then become abbot of the monastery Sakkudion. Banished to
the isles of the Bospherus by the Emperor Nicephorus for opposing
imperial misdoings.

* Peter, bishop of Poitiers (1115) - Along with Ivo of Chartres, Bernard
of Tiron, William the Troubadour, and Robert of Arbrissel, Peter
denounced King Philip I of France for repudiating his wife Bertha and
then entering into union with Bertrada de Montfort. It was in Peter's
diocese that Robert of Arbrissel founded the abbey of Fontevrault. 

* Benedict the Holy Black, Franciscan (1589) - Born to African slaves in
a village near Massina in Sicily, Benedict was set free by the slave
owner.  An infused sacred learning enabled him to expound on Holy
Scriptures to the edification of priests and novices. His ability to
read minds coupled with a kind nature made him a successful director of
novices. He became patron saint of African Americans and protector of
the town of Palermo. 

Last George Ferzoco asked:

Does anyone know of other 'saints of colour' in pre-modern Europe?

And Sharon Hackett repsonded:

Catholic online has a heading for "ethnic saints". Augustine, Monica,
and of course the aforementioned Benedict are listed under the heading
'black saints'. Here are the other pre-modern black saints listed:

"Saint Moses the Black, was a desert monk, born around 330."
"The names of the three African Popes are: Victor (189-203 A.D.),
Gelasius (492-496 A.D.), and Melchiades or Miltiades (311-314 A.D.). All
are saints." They take e-mail submissions of ethnic saints, so if we
come up with more saints (or more categories - the current ethnicities
listed are black and irish) we can send 'em in :)

Claire Labrecque added:

Saint Ide d'Argensolles, black Benedictine, from Saint-Leonard
(Liege,Belgique). She was abbesse in a cistercian abbaye. (c.1226).

Florent de Carracedo (c. 1156), was abbot in a monastery of black
benedictines in Carracedo (Spain).

Eugyppe (c.511), africain saint.

There's many. 

"Saints of colour" means only black colour or any other? There's also
many asiatics saints.

For further discussion see
http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists-k-o/medieval-religion/1998-04/0089.html

* * * * * * *
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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During my research into the Barese chronicles, I came 
across an entry which had *Epacta 29* in the Latin and 
*Epatta 19* in the Italian translation of it but can no 
where find what this means.

Any offers?

Thanks,
Tehmina.

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University of Southampton
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Today, 5 April, is the feast of ...

* Derfel Gadarn (sixth century?) - Before the Reformation there was a
wooden image of Derfel in the church of Llandderfel in Merioneth, and in
1538 Mr Commissary Price wrote to Thomas Cromwell asking what should be
done about this image "in whom all the people have so great confidence,
hope and trust that they come daily in pilgrimage unto him, some with
kine, others with oxen, or horses, and the rest with money. The innocent
people have been sore allured and enticed to worship the said image, is
so much that there is a common saying as yet amongst them that whosoever
will offer anything to the said image of Derfel Gardarn he hath the
power to fetch him or them that so offers out of Hell when they be
damned."

* Ethelburga, abbess of Lyminge (c. 647) - Daughter of King Ethelbert of
Kent and Berta. Married the pagan king of Northumbria Edwin whom
Ethelburga finally persuaded to convert. During the reign of Edwin,
Christianity progressed throughout Northumbria. However, after Edwin's
death, his pagan adversaries overran the land. Ethelburga had to return
to Kent where she founded the abbey of Lyminge. 

* Gerald of Sauve-Majeure, abbot (1095) - Instituted the practice of
offering Mass and reciting the office of the dead for thirty days after
the death of any member of the community, and he also ordered that bread
and wine should be served for a whole year for the deceased member and
given to the poor.

* Albert, bishop of Montecorvino (1127) - After losing his sight he was
endowed with the gift of prophecy.

* Juliana of Mount Cornillon, virgin (1258) - The introduction of the
feast of Corpus Christi was due to Juliana of Mount Cornillon. After the
death of her parents she grew up in the double Augustinian monastery of
Mount Cornillon. She learned how to read and studied Augustine, Bernard
and other theologians. After becoming prioress of Mount Cornillon she
sought to institute the feast of Corpus Christi. Although supported by
such men as John of Lausanne and Hugh of St Cher, she was criticized for
being a visionary. She was ultimately driven away from Mount Cornillon.
She ended her days in Fosses as a recluse. The Feast was finally
sanctioned by Urban IV (an early supporter of Juliana). Thomas Aquinas
composed the office for the feast.

* Vincent Ferrer, preacher (1419) Converted a number of Jews,
notably the Rabbi Paul of Burgos, who died bishop of Cartagena in 1435.
Through his preaching he won a great following known as the "Penitents
of Master Vincent". Vincent preached the usual suspects: sin, death,
hell, eternity, and especially the speedy approach of the day of
judgement. He spoke with such force and energy that some of his hearers
would faint from fear, while the sobs of his congregation often caused
him to take .... long ..... dramatic ...... pauses ......

* * * * * * * *
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 6 April, is the feast of ...

* 120 martyrs in Persia (345) - Among the martyrs were nine consecrated
virgins and the rest were priests, deacons or monks. A wealthy and
devout woman named Yazdandocta found means to bury the bodies of the
martyrs in place where they would be safe from profanation.

* Marcellinus, martyr (413) - Several of Augustine of Hippo's books,
including City of God, are dedicated to his friend Marcellinus. 

* Celestine I, pope (432)
- second-greatest pope with this name; see 19 May for the
greatest! :-) Celestine I encouraged St Germanus of Auxerre to make
vigorous opposition to the spread of Pelagianism. Celestine wrote a
treatise dealing with the Pelagian and Semi-Pelagian heresy. 

* Eutychius, patriarch of Constantinople (582) - Towards the end of his
days, Eutychius was engaged in controversy with the future Pope Gregory
the Great During Eutychius's patriarchy Gregory was the representative
for the Holy See at Constantinople.

* Prudentius, bishop of Troyes (861) - Summoned by Hincmar of Reims to
consider the case of the monk Gottschalk who had been condemned for
teaching that Christ had died only for the elect, while the greater part
of humanity had been irredeemably doomed by God from all eternity to sin
and Hell. Gottschalk had been tortured and imprisoned - Prudentius
thought the punishment excessive.

* Notker Balbulus (912) - In the days when Grimoald was abbot of
Saint-Gall, the parents of Notker placed their young son in its school.
The boy was delicate, with an impediment in his speech from which he
derived his nickname of Balbulus, and he seems to have been already what
the monk Ekkehard described him to have been in later life: "weakly in
body but not in mind, stammering of tongue but not of intellect,
pressing forward boldly in things divine - a vessel filled with the Holy
Ghost without equal in his time."

* William of Eskill, abbot (1203) - Great reputation for canonical
discipline and holiness.

* Catherine of Pallanza, virgin (1478) - Practiced the eremitcal life in
the mountain district of Varese. Flourished as a hermitess for
fifteen years until a community of women grew up around her and adopted
the Augustinian Rule. 

* * * * * * * * *
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Dear Tehmina,

Welcome to the wonderful world of medieval dating systems. The word
epacta or epacta lunaris can be found in the very handy C.R. Cheney, ed.
*Handbook of Dates for Students of English History*, p. 8. It was a
system of calculating the date of Easter. Cheney explains all.

Good luck and take out your calculator!
Carolyn


Dr Carolyn Muessig
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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Tehmina Bhote wrote:

> During my research into the Barese chronicles, I came 
> across an entry which had *Epacta 29* in the Latin and 
> *Epatta 19* in the Italian translation of it but can no 
> where find what this means.
> 
> Any offers?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tehmina.
> 
> ----------------------
> Tehmina Bhote
> University of Southampton
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> 



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There is a painting of V. Ferrer included in a polyptych by Giovanni
Bellini at SS. Giovanni e Paolo in Venice.  (One of our graduate students 
kindly brong (me a postcard with a reproduction of his image).

tom izbicki



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Dear medieval-religion colleagues,

I am grateful and pleased to be able to announce the following details of the 
sessions sponsored by the medieval-religion list at Kalamazoo this year. As you know, 
these are not in the printed programme, and perhaps only now may be on the Congress's 
web corrigenda (although I haven't checked). I am very pleased with the papers on 
offer (except mine, which I haven't written yet :-Q ), and I am sure you will be too. 
I hope that many of you will be present at the sessions, to meet and support (and 
learn from!) our speakers and colleagues.

Please, given the lateness of these arrangements, do forward these session details to 
anyone you think might be interested.

(Also note that the room we've been assigned for both sessions, Valley II Room 205, 
is a good one, and is near to the book display.)

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Saturday, 8 May 1999, 1:30 p.m.
Valley II, Room 205

SESSION TITLE: Burial: Theory and Practice
SESSION SPONSORS: The medieval-religion discussion list 
(http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion) and The University of Leicester, 
Medieval Research Centre

Organizer and Presider: George Ferzoco, University of Leicester

PAPER 1: Llans, long cists, and hob-nailed boots: Practice and theory in
Christian burial in Western Britain and Ireland, A.D. 400-800.
   Presenter: Ronald A. Ross

PAPER 2: After the Burial: Popular Interpretation of Mirk's Exempla
   Presenter: Mark Moore, Cleveland Public Library

PAPER 3: Rest in Peace? The Remains of Peter of the Morrone
   Presenter: George Ferzoco

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Saturday, 8 May 1999, 3:30 p.m.
Valley II, Room 205

SESSION TITLE: Sanctity: Theory and Practice
SESSION SPONSORS: The medieval-religion discussion list 
(http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion) and The University of Leicester, 
Medieval Research Centre

Organizer and Presider: George Ferzoco, University of Leicester

PAPER 1: Literary Sanctity: the works and life of Gregory the Great in the Whitby 
"Liber Beati Gregorii"
   Presenter: Kate Rambridge, Centre for Medieval Studies, University of Bristol

PAPER 2: "Sitten ane & halden hire stille:" Mouth and Tongue as Instruments of 
Sanctity in "Ancrene Wisse"
   Presenter: Arlene Catherine Hilfer, Hanover College

PAPER 3: The Sanctity of Thomas Becket: An Early View From Chichester
   Presenter: Victoria Christine Appel, Wolfson College, Oxford

PAPER 4: Documenting Sanctity in Pre-Tridentine Catholicism and Pre-Reformation 
English Vernacular Spirituality: The Cases of Julian of Norwich and Margery Kemp
   Presenter: Thomas L. Long, Thomas Nelson Community College

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:15:27 -0400
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    Mediev-L <[log in to unmask]>, Medtextl <[log in to unmask]>, 
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I am only forwarding--I have no official standing.  Juris

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:56:03 -0400
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        PLEASE X-POST

        Here is some late information on the Kalamazoo Congress:

        1. Registration. We will accept FAX registrations at

                        616-387-8750

on the Reg form (off the Web or ask us to FAX back to you). Registration
will guarantee you a packet with a list of corrections/cancellations,
meal tickets that you ordered, concert tickets that you booked, and
various peripherals.

        NO HOUSING COMMITMENTS or HOUSING RESERVATIONS, however.

        NO PHONE REGISTRATIONS

        2. Housing. Right now it appears that all on-campus housing is
booked. There will be fine-tuning, some late cancellations, etc. At this
time we cannot commit to on-campus housing requests.

         Hotel accommodations are available here and there. Call Corporate
Events at

                        1-888-493-3112

Corporate Events will let you know what is available. Some hotels are
still offering their pregistration rates. The Radisson and the Holiday Inn
are booked.

        3. Concert Tickets. Tickets are still available for Altramar and
Pomerium, but waiting to the last minute is not wise.

        4. Weather: absolutely lovely today. Maybe tomorrow I will switch
to short sleeve-shirts. Next week is simply meteorological roulettte.

        P.S. If you have registered already, Corporate Events will issue
your confirmations, not us.

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My Italian dictionary gives the following definition for *epatta*:  Gli
undici giorni che si aggiungono all'anno lunare per pareggiarlo al
solare, e cosi conoscere i giorni della luna.
[The eleven days that are added to the lunar year to make it even with
the solar year and thus know the days of the moon.]
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Dear all, dear friends,

Several years of unsuccessful worldwide academic job-hunt have forced me to
reconsider my plans, and although I am not yet giving up these plans
entirely, I nevertheless have responsibilities and obligations towards my
family, which do not allow me to go on as before. Tomorrow morning I will
take the train to Heidelberg, and if I can arrange for accomodation very
quickly, from next week on I will work there for three months as a member
of the web-team of one of our major scientific publishers (Springer
Science). I don't know what will come afterwards, but my feeling is not
that it will be a job in teaching and research.

If possible I will try to stay co-owner of this list (and of
Italian-Studies as well) and will fulfill my small duties as such as best I
can, but as I will need some time to reorganize my new life I recommend
that in cases of urgency regarding the management of this list you put your
trust rather in George, Carolyn and John than in me. In such cases, please
direct your questions or complaints to
<[log in to unmask]>, to make sure that you reach all
the list-owners at the same time and that the quickest of us can respond.

The job in Heidelberg will only be temporary, but Heidelberg is one of the
most lovely cities of my country, also close to the place (Schwetzingen)
where as a little child I learned to walk and to speak, whereas Berlin was
always a sort of exile to me where I did not really achieve very much. So
please feel invited to share my good hopes for the future rather than my
regrets of the past.

Yours,

  Otfried

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Dear Otfried,
I'm sure I am not alone on this list either in being able to 
sympathize very directly with your employment predicament or in 
wondering at the state of an academic environment that would put such 
an erudite and generous scholar in it in the first place.  Publishing 
is not a bad place to be, academically, but please don't give up 
trying to get a teaching post.  You have "educated" so many 
"professionals" on this list, that I can't help but think of how 
fortunate students would be to be taught by you.  Heidelberg is 
indeed a lovely city, and I hope you and your family enjoy it 
greatly.
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> I have been using Paul Halsall's Medieval Sourcebook on the web.  I have found
> it very useful because you can pick from lots of different sources and can
> change assignments mid-course if you get a different idea, students have
> aparticular interest, etc.  This is assuming your students have general
> computer access.  --Mary Suydam
>

    I use the Medieval Sourcebook also and have found a way of
accommodating students who do not have good web access.  Before the
beginning of the semester, I print out two copies of all readings and
put them in a black binder.  Both copies go into the Reserve Bookroom of
the library--one copy can be checked out overnight (so students can take
it to an all night copy place if they want) and one copy is for
in-library use only.  All of the copyright and location information is
preserved in the print-out, just as it is when students print it
themselves from the web (most students want to have a print copy for
study or to bring to class).  I have, by the way, done this in a six
week summer class covering the high Middle Ages.
    If, however, you are still interested in a print anthology, you
might consider David Herlihy, _Medieval Culture and Society_, which I
don't think anyone has mentioned yet.  It does have literature
selections, including The Romance of Tristan and Iseult and cantos from
the Divine Comedy (Inferno and Paradisio), among other things.  It was
still in print a few years ago when I used it, but may have gone out of
print since then.
    Good luck!
Karen
--
Dr. Karen Jolly
Associate Professor, History
University of Hawai`i at Manoa
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<PRE>I have been using Paul Halsall's Medieval Sourcebook on the web.&nbsp; I have found
it very useful because you can pick from lots of different sources and can
change assignments mid-course if you get a different idea, students have
aparticular interest, etc.&nbsp; This is assuming your students have general
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<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I use the Medieval Sourcebook also and have found
a way of accommodating students who do not have good web access.&nbsp;
Before the beginning of the semester, I print out two copies of all readings
and put them in a black binder.&nbsp; Both copies go into the Reserve Bookroom
of the library--one copy can be checked out overnight (so students can
take it to an all night copy place if they want) and one copy is for in-library
use only.&nbsp; All of the copyright and location information is preserved
in the print-out, just as it is when students print it themselves from
the web (most students want to have a print copy for study or to bring
to class).&nbsp; I have, by the way, done this in a six week summer class
covering the high Middle Ages.
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anthology, you might consider David Herlihy, _Medieval Culture and Society_,
which I don't think anyone has mentioned yet.&nbsp; It does have literature
selections, including The Romance of Tristan and Iseult and cantos from
the Divine Comedy (Inferno and Paradisio), among other things.&nbsp; It
was still in print a few years ago when I used it, but may have gone out
of print since then.
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<BR>Karen
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	Man muss von einem Licht fort in ein anderes gehen... so etwa schrieb
Goethe.
	Herzlichen Dank fuer alles und meine allerbesten Wuensche

			Marija-Ana Duerrigl
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        Querido Otfried:

        Gracias por todo y Ħmucha suerte!

        Carlos



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Let me echo the feelings of others on this list who have marvelled at your
knowledge and your generosity in sharing it.  There is something wrong with
an academic system that has no place in it for such a one.  Best of luck to
you in your new endeavors, and I wish you and your family all happiness in
your move.

laura smoller

Laura Smoller
Department of History
University of Arkansas at Little Rock
2801 South University Ave.
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Dear list members,

    I'd like bibliographical indications concerning medieval cerimonies =
of consacration. I'm specifically interrested in consacretions of =
cathedrals and monasteries, centuries 11th to 13th (too much time? -but =
have these cerimonies changed too much during that time?).

Thank you since now,
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Dear List-members,

I rediscovered Bill East's wonderful explanation of Virtue this 
morning and realized it is directly related to topics I'm 
researching:  ritual purity, pollution, and contagion.  I've tried to 
find articles and/or books discussing Virtue through the usual 
internet databases but with no luck.  Can anyone recommend some 
sources for late antique/early medieval beliefs about Virtue?  I'm 
afraid I'm not quite sure where to go for this.

Many Thanks!
Morgyn Wagner
Dept of History
Edinburgh University
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Sorry all, I should have forwarded Bill's original with my message.

Thanks,
Morgyn

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It may be helpful to inject into the discussion the notion of "Virtue".  I
do not mean Virtue in the reduced sense of a moral quality, such as courage
or patience, but in older senses which are defined as follows in the Shorter
Oxford Dictionary:

VIRTUE  I. as a personal attribute.  1a.  The power or operative influence
inherent in a supernatural or divine being . . . II.  As a quality of
things.  7a.  Of a precious stone:  magical or supernatural power, esp. in
the prevention or cure of a disease etc.

Virtue is conceived of as a supernatural power, in its most intense form
quite tangible, and inherent in holy people and things.  It is communicable
by contact, quite as readily as, in modern terms, a magnetic or electric charge.

The notion is perfectly scriptural.  We find it perhaps at 2 Samuel 6:6-7,
"And . . . Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it .
. . And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah . . . and God smote
him . . . and there he died."

More indisputably, we find it as a quality inhering in Jesus, in the story
of the woman who touched the hem of Jesus' garment at Mark 5:27ff:

"For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.  And
straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up;  and she felt in her
body that she was healed of that plague.  And Jesus, immediately knowing in
himself that VIRTUE had gone out of him . . ." [So KJV;  Douai, "And
immediately Jesus, knowing in himself the VIRTUE that had proceeded from him
. . .";  Vulgate "gognoscens VIRTUTEM quae exierat de illo"].

Virtue then is a power residing in a holy person, living or dead.  This is
the rationale behind the cult of relics.  The humerus of St Lawrence,
preserved so reverently at Ampleforth, is an object replete with Virtue, a
very powerful force for curing the sick, casting out demons, raising the
dead, building up faith or whatever good purpose is required.  Thus we find
in 2 Kings 20-21,

"And Elisha died, and they buried him . . .  And they cast [a corpse] into
the sepulchre of Elisha:  and when the man was let down, and touched the
bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet."

Virtue can be communicated to any object, animate or inanimate.  The ground
on which a saint has walked is charged with Virtue.  Soil from the Holy Land
is replete with Virtue.  The other day I was visiting a parishioner who had
received a greeting card from the Holy Land.  The lettering was raised by
embossing, and a message in smaller print informed her that the raised
lettering had touched the earth of the Holy Land.  This made a great
impression on my parishioner.  I thought it best not to inform her that her
priest had sunbathed on the Holy Land and swum in the River Jordan.  Her
devotion to my skin might have become excessive.

Elisha sends his servant Gehazi to lay his staff on the corpse of the child
of the Shunemite (2 Kings 4:29 ff).  The expectation is that the staff will
be sufficiently charged with Virtue to raise the child to life.  In the
event, it doesn't work, and Elisha has to do the job himself.

Even so intangible and immaterial an object as a shadow can possess Virtue.
So we find at Acts 5:15,

"Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them
on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might
overshadow some of them."

A saint's clothing, or any of his possessions, will be charged with Virtue.
So will the ground of his grave, or any object (e.g. a handkerchief) which
has touched it.  

Objects charged with Virtue were often dipped into water, and the water
drunk or rubbed on affected parts.  Thus, the hand of St James at Reading
Abbey was dipped into water,  which was then drunk by the faithful.  This
water had powerful emetic properties, and the cure was usually accompanied
by violent vomiting.  Likewise the hair-breeches (femoralia) of St Thomas
Becket, reputed to have been darned by the Blessed Virgin Mary herself
[honestly - I'm not joking] were kept at Canterbury, and dipped into water
which was given to the faithful to drink.  This was the high-point of the
Canterbury pilgrimage, and I think gives added point to Chaucer's Host when
he says to the Pardoner:

Thou woldest make me kisse thyn olde breech,
And swere it were a relyk of a seint,
Though it were with thy fundement depeint!

Had the 'olde breech' really belonged to a saint, it would have been a
perfectly acceptable relic.

Thus, water which had had any contact with a saint, or his clothing, or
anything that had belonged to him, would be considered charged with Virtue.
Certainly the water in which a saint had been baptised, or in which he had
been accustomed to baptise others, would be full of Virtue.

Certain bodies of water were considered to have healing powers, even in
biblical times, both in the Old and New Testaments.  Thus, Elisha advises
Naaman the Syrian to wash seven times in the Jordan (2 Kings 5:10 ff);
Jesus tells a blind man to wash his eyes in the pool Siloam (John 9:7);  and
St John also records the miracles of the pool of Bethesda:  "Now there is at
Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue
Bethesda, having five porches.  In these lay a great multitude of impotent
folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.  For an
angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water:
whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made
whole of whatever disease he had." (John 5:2-4)

All this by way of demonstrating that the cult of relics, as possessing
Virtue, is not pagan but Christian and Scriptural;  the Christian
antecedents are not pagan but Jewish, and amply recorded in the Hebrew
scriptures;  and the cult of holy wells, pools and springs finds its place
in this tradition.  Christians may (for ought I know) have from time to
time, taken over a pagan spring;  but the notion of a holy spring is in
itself authentically and scripturally Christian.

Bill.




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One of the brethren here wonders if there is any website devoted to St 
Augustine which would have an English translation of the Enarrationes in 
Psalmos? We have the first two volumes of the English translation in the 
Library of the Fathers series but the volume with his commentary on psalm 
112 is missing.

Many thanks

Colman

PS may I also join in wishing Ottfried the very best and thanking him for 
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At 01:26 27/04/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear all, dear friends,
>
>Several years of unsuccessful worldwide academic job-hunt have forced me to
>reconsider my plans, and although I am not yet giving up these plans
>entirely, I nevertheless have responsibilities and obligations towards my
>family, which do not allow me to go on as before. 

My dear old chap, can't you do what I do?  I live by the sweat of my Frau.


>The job in Heidelberg will only be temporary, but Heidelberg is one of the
>most lovely cities of my country, also close to the place (Schwetzingen)
>where as a little child I learned to walk and to speak, whereas Berlin was
>always a sort of exile to me where I did not really achieve very much. So
>please feel invited to share my good hopes for the future rather than my
>regrets of the past.

Perhaps then you will concur with the sentiments of Peripateticus Palatinus:

Nostrum est interim mentem erigere
et totis patriam votis appetere,
et ad Ierusalem a Babylonia
post longa regredi tandem exsilia.

Oriens.



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At 15:53 27/04/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear List-members,
>
>I rediscovered Bill East's wonderful explanation of Virtue this 
>morning and realized it is directly related to topics I'm 
>researching:  ritual purity, pollution, and contagion.  I've tried to 
>find articles and/or books discussing Virtue through the usual 
>internet databases but with no luck.  Can anyone recommend some 
>sources for late antique/early medieval beliefs about Virtue?  I'm 
>afraid I'm not quite sure where to go for this.

I'll have a think.  Bill.



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Dear Otfried,

We are grateful for all the brilliant work that you have done and your
many wonderful contributions. We would like to take this opportunity,
as so many Medieval-Religion list members have already done, to say that
we wish you the best in all your coming endeavours. We hope that at the
end of your three months in Heidelberg you will have found exactly what
you have been looking for; selfishly, I hope that you'll have found a
job in academe by then! Whatever may happen, all of us are in your debt;
thank you Otfried Lieberknecht!

With warmest wishes to an excellent Co-list owner.
Carolyn, George and John




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At 16:43 27/04/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>One of the brethren here wonders if there is any website devoted to St 
>Augustine which would have an English translation of the Enarrationes in 
>Psalmos? We have the first two volumes of the English translation in the 
>Library of the Fathers series but the volume with his commentary on psalm 
>112 is missing.

The series "Early Christian Fathers" (i.e. Ante-Nicene Fathers, Nicene and
Post-Nicene Fathers) is online.  I can't remember the URL by see what Yahoo
can do with 'Nicene'.  Actually you want Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,
first Series, vol. 8 p. 546.

The Supple Doctor.



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Dear Colman:

You might try http://ccel.wheaton.edu/fathers2.

This is a website at Wheaton College, Illinois, USA which makes available
the texts of the Ante-Nicene Fathers and the Nicene/Post-Nicene Fathers
translations series.

Augustine's _Ennarationes_ are available more or less in full. That is,
just as in the printed editions of these texts, the Ennarationes here are
abridged from the Latin (abridgements are noted by ellipses). 

Cheers,
--Deborah

Deborah L. Goodwin                                        "Don't talk to
me of the Duke of Monmouth.
Department of Theology                                  Show me the exact
spot where Louisa
University of Notre Dame                                 Musgrove fell!" 
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Today, 27 April, is the feast of ... 

Anthimus, bishop of Nicomedia (303) 

Asicus or Tassach, bishop of Elphin (470): Tassach is the principal
patron of Elphin in County Roscommon, and is traditionally regarded as
having been the first bishop of that diocese. 

Maughold or Maccul, bishop of Man (498): A bloodthirsty evildoer,
Maughold was converted by St Patrick. As penance Patrick bade him leave
his native land without rudder or oars, in a leather-covered coracle
which bore him to the shores of the Isle of Man. 

Floribert, bishop of Liege (746): The saint is described as a man of
great humility, a lover of the poor and "vehement in correcting". 

Stephen Pechersky, bishop of Vladimir (1094): Disciple of St Theodosius
at the monastery of the Caves in Kiev. 

Zita, housekeeper (1278): Patroness of domestic workers. One bitterly
cold Christmas Eve in Lucca, when Zita insisted upon going to church,
her master threw his fur coat over her, telling her not to lose it. In
the entrance to San Frediano she came upon a scantily clad man, whose
teeth were chattering with the cold. As he laid an appealing hand upon
the coat, Zita immediately placed it upon his shoulders, telling him
that he could keep it until the end of Mass. When the service was over,
neither the man nor the coat were anywhere to be seen. Crestfallen, Zita
returned home to encounter the reproaches of her master Pagano. Pagano
was about to sit down to his Christmas dinner, when a stranger appeared
at the door carrying the fur coat and handed it to Zita. Master and maid
eagerly addressed him, but he disappeared from their sight as suddenly
as had come, leaving in the hearts of all who had seen him a wonderful
celestial joy. Since that day, the people of Lucca called the portal of
San Frediano where Zita met the stranger "The Angel Door." Zita had a
special devotion to criminals under sentence of death on whose behalf
she would pray for hours. 

Peter Armengol, belonged to the Order of Mercedarians (1304): Twice was
sent to Africa to ransom prisoners in captivity among the Moors. On the
second occasion, the money he had taken with him was insufficient to
secure the release of 18 boys. He volunteered to remain as a hostage
until his companion returned with the ransom demanded. But the religious
who brought it only arrived in time to learn that Peter had been hanged
as a defaulter some days before. He went to secure the remains of the
martyr, but discovered on cutting the body down that Peter was still
living. He was allowed to return his fellow religious at Guardia, and
there living for ten years, with twisted neck and contorted limbs, he
gave a wonderful example of virtue. 

Antony of Siena, belonged to the order of the Hermits of St Augustine
(1311) 

James of Bitetto, Franciscan lay-brother (1485): James was seen on
occasions upraised from the ground when engaged in prayer. In a
Franciscan friary he was employed as a cook. The sight of the kitchen
fire led him at times to contemplate the flames of Hell, and on other
occasions to dwell on the consuming fire of eternal love in Heaven. He
often fell into ecstasies over his work, standing motionless and
entirely absorbed in God. 

*****************
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
phone: +44(0)117-928-8168
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Dear Otfried,

I'm sure that everyone on the list will be wishing you success and further 
opportunities in Heidelberg.

Think of how many students you have already had.

May your future offer you many pleasant surprises.

Cordially, 

Gary Dickson
University of Edinburgh



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A good place to look at the canonical norms is the third part of the
Decretum of Gratian, De conscratione, found in volume 1 of Corpus Iuris
Canonici, ed. E. Friedberg (reprint Graz, 1955);  the Gregorian Decretals
& the Liber Sextus each has a title De consecratione ecclesiae, found in
vol. 2.

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Dear Otfried,
I would like to join the other members of the list in thanking you for your
many amazingly useful contributions and for your friendliness to those of
us less learned than yourself.  It is shameful that a real scholar cannot
find a position in Academe--what a waste!  Best of luck with your future
endeavors, in Heidelberg or elsewhere.
All the Best,
Megan

Megan McLaughlin
Associate Professor of History and Women's Studies
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
309 Gregory Hall, 810 S. Wright St.
Urbana, IL  61801     U.S.A.
Phone:  217-244-2084
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Please tell me when the Medieval Religion sessions are at K-zoo, date and 
time. Thanks!! Marijim Thoene



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Cher Otfried.

Comme tous les autres membres qui l'ont fait avant moi, j'aimerias
t'exprimer toute ma gratitude,mais aussi mon admiration pour ton esprit si
savant et pour les qualites de coeur dont tu a fait preuve depuis toujours,
lesquelles sont nettement perceptibles dans tous tes messages. 

En effet, le systeme academique (mondial) se porte mal comme l'a dit Laura,
c'est a n'y rien comprendre. Bonne chance dans tous tes projets d'avenir...
et je souhaite qu'on te donnera la place qui te revient.


Claire



P.S.: Les aquarelles sur ton site Web sont magnifiques.


 





Claire Labrecque
Departement d'histoire
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For guidance on Augustine studies and materials, and lots of other related
and unrelated stuff, a good place to start is Jim O'Donnell's home page --

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/jod.html

Bob
-- 
Robert A. Kraft, Religious Studies, University of Pennsylvania
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Friends,

I'm trying to find out the origin and significance of the phrase
"Cuculla non fecit monachum" or something like that. Our abbot is
interested in the history and meaning of the phrase. I thought it might
be a canonical explanation that just because someone had a cuculla on
did not mean he was a monk nor could he claim monastic exemptions etc.

Any help with this prhase would be appreciated.

Bro Thomas


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Brother Thomas,

I would have thought that this to be the antecedent/inspiration of a similar saying 
in medieval vernaculars. To give simply the French examples -- as I am fortunate 
enough to have before me Giuseppe Di Stefano's amazing *Dictionnaire des locutions en 
moyen francais* (Montreal: CERES, 1991) -- we find on p. 421, under 'L'habit ne fait 
pas le moine ne le cuverchief la beguine', no fewer than nine different citations 
(interestingly, none of them deal with the 'beguine' bit; I wonder why?), including 
the *Roman de la Rose* (v. 11028: La robe ne fet pas le moine), Rutebeuf and Charles 
d'Orleans.

All the best,
George

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According to the Oxford Latin Dictionary, "cucullus" means hood;  the hood
does not make the monk.

I found the phrase in Hans Walther, Proverbia sententiaeque latinitatis
medii aevi, nova series 1 (or vol. 7 overall) (Gottingen:  Vandenhoeck &
Ruprecht, 1982), p. 460 nr. 35860, "Cucullus non fecit monachum."  Among
the bibliographic cites there is P. v. Moos, "Hildebert von Lavardin
(Stuttgart, 1965), p. 142.

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On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Thomas Izbicki 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> According to the Oxford Latin Dictionary, "cucullus" means hood;  the hood
> does not make the monk.
> 
But it can also mean in medieval Latin (which of course OLD doesn't 
cover) the long, sleeveless, hooded overgarment worn by monks (I 
speak subject to correction by any monks on the list . . .). The 
point of the saying seems to be less legal than moral; the later 
French translation of _Ancrene Wisse_ cites a Latin couplet, which I 
haven't got round to checking in Walther:
Larga corona satis, uestis nigra, bota [sic, for copa?] rotunda
Non faciunt monachum, sed mens a crimine munda
(‘A generous tonsure, black clothing, do not prove a monk's 
profession,
Nor does a rounded cope, but a spirit pure from trangression').
Bella M.


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Would anyone know whether there was a standard liturgy for the
installation of a Dominican master general?

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Dear Otfried,
    I would hesitate to take up more of your time, when you are in the middle
of your move from Berlin to Heidelberg,
except for the fact that I feel it is essential for someone from the southern
hemisphere and the antipodes to add his
voice to the chorus of thanks and appreciation for your Herculean labours over
the years. We are all shocked by
the failure of academe to enable you to do for generations of students what
you have done for so many of us - by
providing urbane and witty erudition with the utmost generosity, as well as
accomplishing miracles in computering
(and I trust that everyone has visited and admired your Dante site).
    Everyone is delighted to know that you have no intention of abandoning us.
Thank you again for ALL you have
done. You and your family are accompanied by our warm affection and profound
gratitude -
    John Scott (Perth, Australia)



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Je me joins au concert des nations, et le repete en une autre langue:
merci, Otfried, pour ton savoir et ta generosite. Nous te souhaitons
tous bonne chance, et esperons que des solutions apparaitront. Mais
entretemps, helas, il faut bien vivre ! 
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Many thanks tos all who helped me with the St Augustine query.I was able to 
find the text needed and in so doing managed to convert one of our 
octagenarians to the virtues of the Intenet and indeed medieval-religion

Colman

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>Please tell me when the Medieval Religion sessions are at K-zoo, date and 
>time. Thanks!! Marijim Thoene
>
What a convenient occasion to allow me to publicize the sessions once more!

Thanks for asking, Marijim, and hope to see you at the Congress.

George

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Saturday, 8 May 1999, 1:30 p.m.
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SESSION TITLE: Burial: Theory and Practice
SESSION SPONSORS: The medieval-religion discussion list 
(http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion) and The University of Leicester, 
Medieval Research Centre

Organizer and Presider: George Ferzoco, University of Leicester

PAPER 1: Llans, long cists, and hob-nailed boots: Practice and theory in
Christian burial in Western Britain and Ireland, A.D. 400-800.
   Presenter: Ronald A. Ross

PAPER 2: After the Burial: Popular Interpretation of Mirk's Exempla
   Presenter: Mark Moore, Cleveland Public Library

PAPER 3: Rest in Peace? The Remains of Peter of the Morrone
   Presenter: George Ferzoco

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Saturday, 8 May 1999, 3:30 p.m.
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SESSION TITLE: Sanctity: Theory and Practice
SESSION SPONSORS: The medieval-religion discussion list 
(http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion) and The University of Leicester, 
Medieval Research Centre

Organizer and Presider: George Ferzoco, University of Leicester

PAPER 1: Literary Sanctity: the works and life of Gregory the Great in the Whitby 
"Liber Beati Gregorii"
   Presenter: Kate Rambridge, Centre for Medieval Studies, University of Bristol

PAPER 2: "Sitten ane & halden hire stille:" Mouth and Tongue as Instruments of 
Sanctity in "Ancrene Wisse"
   Presenter: Arlene Catherine Hilfer, Hanover College

PAPER 3: The Sanctity of Thomas Becket: An Early View From Chichester
   Presenter: Victoria Christine Appel, Wolfson College, Oxford

PAPER 4: Documenting Sanctity in Pre-Tridentine Catholicism and Pre-Reformation 
English Vernacular Spirituality: The Cases of Julian of Norwich and Margery Kemp
   Presenter: Thomas L. Long, Thomas Nelson Community College

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Hello all...

Among the Carthusians it is still called a cuculla. Unlike scapulars in many 
orders it extends beyond the shoulder. It still has a hood. It bears the 
loose bands on either side at pocket level.

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Many thanks to all list members who dug out examples of these. Most if not
all of them seem to have been women dressing as men for practical reasons.
Miranda has been finding examples of classical priests (male) dressing as
women for what appear to be symbolic reasons and is interested in this as a
form of liminality, permeability of boundaries &c. I wonder whether what
she may have is relics of earlier ritual behaviour (like our priests in
long robes)

Anyway, thanks again

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Today, 28 April, is the feast of ... 

Vitalis and Valeria, martyrs (second century) 

Pollio, martyr (304) 

Theodora and Didymus, martyrs (304): Theodora was a beautiful maiden of
Alexandria who refused to sacrifice to the gods. She was sentenced to
spend her days in a house of ill-fame. She was rescued from the brothel
by Didymus, who changed clothes with her; but on reaching a place
of safety Theodora fell dead from shock. Didymus was soon found and was
put to death. 

Cronan of Roscrea, abbot (626) 

Pamphilus, bishop of Sulmona (700): During the last quarter of the
seventh century there was living in the Abruzzi a bishop called
Pamphilus, who ruled over the united dioceses of Sulmona and Corfinium.
He was a very holy man, a zealous teacher, austere in his life and
generous to the poor, but he aroused hostility by introducing 'certain
innovations'. On Sunday mornings he would rise shortly after midnight
and, after the solemn singing of the night offices, he would proceed at
once to celebrate Mass. Then he would distribute alms, and at daybreak
would provide for the poor a meal which he shared with his guests. Some
of his clergy and people objected strongly to this hour for offering
Mass. They actually went so far as to denounce him as Arian to the pope.
The pope summoned him and so completely did Pamphilus succeed in
vindicating his orthodoxy that the pontiff sent him home with a liberal
donation for his poor. 

Cyril, bishop of Turov (1182) 

Luchesio (1260): First Franciscan tertiary. 

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Today, 7 April, is the feast of ...

Hegesippus, (180): Remembered(?) as the Father of Church History.
By birth a Jew and a member of the church of Jerusalem. Unfortunately
only a few chapters remain of the five books which he wrote on the
history of the Church.

Aphraates, (345): Hermit whose miracles not only cured men and women but
also Emperor Valens' favourite horse!

George the Younger, Bishop of Mitylene (816) -Remarkable for his
generosity in almsgiving, for his humility and for the rigorous and
prolonged fasts which caused people to say that he must be an angel
because he lived without food or drink. 

Celsus or Ceallach, Archbishop of Armagh (1129) - Assiduous in
conducting visitations, in conserving the temporalities of his see, and
in restoring ecclesiastical discipline.

Aybert (1140): Aybert wore many hats, hermit, cellarer, priest,
spiritual advisor to bishops, canonesses, scholars and humble peasants. 

Herman Joseph (1241): As a little boy he would enter church and converse
familiarly with the Virgin Mary and the Holy Child as he knelt before
their statue. Once when he offered them an apple he was overjoyed when
the hand of the Madonna extended to accept it.

Ursulina, virgin (1410): When she was fifteen a divine voice several
times bade her to go to Avignon to urge Pope Clement VII to renounce his
claim to the papacy. She did go (twice!) much to Pope Boniface IX's
pleasure, but to no avail. While she was in Avignon she was accused of
sorcery and narrowly escaped trial.

William of Scicli, Franciscan tertiary and hermit (1411) - Seldom left
his hermitage except to visit the sick poor for whom he had great
compassion.

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Today, 8 April, is the feast of ...

Dionysius, Bishop of Corinth (180) - Although Dionysius appears to have
died in peace, the Greeks venerate him as a martyr because he suffered
much for his faith.

Perpetuus, Bishop of Tours (494) - During the thirty years of his
episcopal rule, Perpetuus worked hard to spread Christianity, to enforce
discipline and to regulate the fasts and festivals to be in his see. His
death is said to have been hastened by grief of the invasion of the
Goths and the spread of Arianism.

Walter of Pontoise, Abbot (1095): King Philip compelled Walter to become
the first abbot of a new monastery near Pontoise. Although, in
accordance with the custom of the time, he received his investiture from
the sovereign, the abbot placed his hand not under but over that of the
king, and said: "It is from God, not from your Majesty, that I accept
the charge of this church."

Clement of Osimo, Prior General of the Augustinian Hermits (1291) - Was
confessor to Cardinal Benedict Gaetani, afterwards Pope Boniface VIII.

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Today, 9 April, is the feast of ...

Mary of Cleophas, matron (First Century): One of the more colourful
legends associated with the name of Mary of Cleophas is the one that
connects her with the coming of Lazarus, Mary Magdalen, and Martha to
Provence. Mary of Cleophas' body was believed to repose at
Saintes-Maries near the mouth of the Rhone.

Waldertudis, or Waudru, Widow (688): Waudru, patron of Mons, belonged to
a family of remarkable holiness (and first names!): her parents were SS
Walbert and Bertilia, her sister St Aldegundis of Mauberge, Waudru's
husband St Madlegar, and their four children SS Landericus, Dentelinus,
Aldetrudis, and Madelberta.

Hugh, Bishop of Rouen (730) - The son of Drogo, Duke of Burgundy, he was
the grandson on the paternal side of Pepin de Herstal and nephew of
Charles Martel. His saintly fame seems to have been tied more to his
impressive lineage than to any acts of piety.

Gaucherius, Abbot (1140): After spending a night in prayer at the tomb
of St Leonard of Limoges, Gaucherius went into the wild forest region
and constructed a hermitage. Gradually, knowledge of the hermit's holy
life spread and men and women sought him out. Eventually, for his
followers he founded a double monastery.

Ubald of Florence (1315): Converted to religious life after hearing the
preaching of Philip Benizi.

Thomas of Tolentino, Martyr (1321): Missionary pioneer, was beheaded on
Salsette Island near Bombay. 

Antony Pavoni, Martyr (1374): Dominican who became inquisitor general
over Piedmont and Liguria - as inquisitor general he made many enemies.
On Low Sunday (the first Sunday after Easter) as he left church in which
he had just offered Mass and preached, he was set upon by seven armed
men, who killed him.

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Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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Today, 10 April, is the feast of ...

Bademus, Abbot (376): One of the victims of the persecution under King
Sapor II of Persia.

The Martyrs under the Danes (870): In one of their descents upon
Anglo-Saxon England, the Danes made their way up the Thames as far as
the abbey of Chertsey, where they massacred Beocca the abbot, a priest
called Hethor, and a number of monks.

Macarius, or Macaire, of Ghent (1012): Popular throughout Flanders where
he was regarded as patron against epidemic diseases of all kinds.

Fulbert, Bishop of Chartres (1029):Was wont to describe himself as "the
very little bishop of a very great church."

Paternus of Abdinghof, Monk (1058): The death of Paternus left a deep
impression on Peter Damian and Marianus Scotus. On the Friday before
Palm Sunday, fires broke out simultaneously in seven parts of town. The
monastery of Abdinghof was completely destroyed. But the monks were
saved, except Paternus, who refused to break his life-vow of enclosure
and as a result perished in the fire.

Antony Neyrot, Martyr (1460): Had a most unusual religious career. He
was first a Dominican. Then, while sailing to Sicily, he was captured by
pirates and carried to Tunis. There he secured his freedom and began to
study the Koran and converted to Islam. He also married. He had second
thoughts and converted back to Christianity, sending away his wife. He
went before the ruler of Tunis in his friar's habit and proclaimed Islam
a heresy. Arguments were employed without being able to convert him back
to Islam. Eventually he was condemned to death.

Mark Fantucci, Franciscan (1479) - Great supporter of the preservation
of the Observance as a separate body when it seemed on the point of
being compulsorily merged with the Conventual branch.

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Dear colleagues,

I would like to propose an idea for taking the list a step further.  It may
be more than we want to engage in just now, but perhaps it might have some
utility.

I belong to another professional list of NT scholars which specifically
treats Pauline studies.  (I am not a NT scholar, but I have a lot of NT
training and I teach it, so I try to keep up in the field.)  Anyhow, the
list maintains a Web-site on which members may post drafts of
articles-in-progress to be commented on by list members.  Only list-members
have access, and comments are sent off-list directly to the author.

This would require somebody who could not only construct a (hopefully
modest) Website, but also knows their internet plumbing enough to put a
modest security apparatus (password access) in place.

(Or perhaps such a site exists and I'm not aware of it?)

Yours,


Patrick.
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Earlham College
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Dear List

I know that bishops were buried - once dead that is - with croziers etc.

Can anyone tell me about abbots, and, what I particularly want to know,
about priors?

Were they customarily attired in a particular way, might they have had goods
buried with them, might they be buried in a particular place, eg. the
chancel of the priory church etc.?

I would be grateful for all suggestions and sources.

Many thanks

Darryl


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Dear List<BR>
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I know that bishops were buried - once dead that is - with croziers etc.<BR=
>
<BR>
Can anyone tell me about abbots, and, what I particularly want to know,<BR>
about priors?<BR>
<BR>
Were they customarily attired in a particular way, might they have had good=
s<BR>
buried with them, might they be buried in a particular place, eg. the<BR>
chancel of the priory church etc.?<BR>
<BR>
I would be grateful for all suggestions and sources.<BR>
<BR>
Many thanks<BR>
<BR>
Darryl<BR>
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Dr D.M. Ogier<BR>
Island Archives Service<BR>
29 Victoria Road<BR>
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:23:47 -0400
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Tom,
        I really don't think there was any special liturgy for the
installation of a new Dominican master general.
None of my many Dominican missals shows any such thing.
Joe Pope


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Dear Otfried,
Though I have only been a member of the list for a short time, I am 
eternally grateful to you. Academe is making a horrible mistake. You seemed 
very ethereal to me over there in my second homeland of Germany, but now 
your presence is all too real. I am saddened, but survival must come first. 
I wish you the success you deserve.
Pat McGurk 
Patricia McGurk    Tel. (Home) 1-612-784-8710
Dept. of German, Scandinavian and Dutch
University of Minnesota
205 Folwell Hall
9 Pleasant St. S.E.
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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:50:17 -0700
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Other lists do have such websites. Possibly someone on ORB might be willing
to help or at least advise?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Patrick Nugent [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 28, 1999 7:39 AM
> To:	[log in to unmask]
> Subject:	Website?
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> I would like to propose an idea for taking the list a step further.  It
> may
> be more than we want to engage in just now, but perhaps it might have some
> utility.
> 
> I belong to another professional list of NT scholars which specifically
> treats Pauline studies.  (I am not a NT scholar, but I have a lot of NT
> training and I teach it, so I try to keep up in the field.)  Anyhow, the
> list maintains a Web-site on which members may post drafts of
> articles-in-progress to be commented on by list members.  Only
> list-members
> have access, and comments are sent off-list directly to the author.
> 
> This would require somebody who could not only construct a (hopefully
> modest) Website, but also knows their internet plumbing enough to put a
> modest security apparatus (password access) in place.
> 
> (Or perhaps such a site exists and I'm not aware of it?)
> 
> Yours,
> 
> 
> Patrick.
> __________________________________
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> Earlham College
> Richmond, Indiana 47374 USA
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Announcing Peregrina Annual Meeting at Kalamazoo

Peregrina Publishing will return to the Kalamazoo Conference this year and
would like to mark the occasion by welcoming all participants to a general
meeting on Friday, May 7th at 5:00 in Fetzer 1010  We will be discussing
new projects and directions for the next few years and invite you to
contribute your comments and suggestions. We look forward to seeing you
there.

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>      Dear List  I know that bishops were buried - once dead that is -
>with croziers etc.  Can anyone tell me about abbots, and, what I
>particularly want to know, about priors?  Were they customarily attired in
>a particular way, might they have had goods buried with them, might they
>be buried in a particular place, eg. the chancel of the priory church
>etc.?  I would be grateful for all suggestions and sources.  Many thanks
>Darryl   =====================================================  Dr D.M.
>Ogier Island Archives Service 29 Victoria Road St Peter Port Guernsey GY1
>1HU British Isles  e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>=====================================================



I have looked at quite a few customaries from houses of monks and canons
regular, but I don't think I have ever seen a specific reference to the
burial of an abbot with (say) his abbatial staff.  I have seen references
to abbots buried with relics.  Many customaries specify that people being
buried should be attired according to their order in the church--that is,
with the appropriate vestments for their liturgical status.  Where they
would be buried seems to have been largely a matter of individual choice,
although I can imagine some communities may have had a particular area
within the church reserved for abbots or priors.  However, I have seen
requests by individual abbots to be buried in the porch, near the altar,
etc., etc.  What really seems to have marked the status of abbots and
priors was the type and quantity of suffrages performed for them after the
burial--how many masses within the first thirty days, for example, or how
much was given in alms, whether a solemn anniversary was performed, etc.
Hope this helps.
Megan

Megan McLaughlin
Associate Professor of History and Women's Studies
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
309 Gregory Hall, 810 S. Wright St.
Urbana, IL  61801     U.S.A.
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Otfried,
    May I add to the chorus of voices yet another language, from the
other side of the globe?
    Mahalo nui loa (Thank you very much)
    with Aloha,
Karen Jolly
P.S.  I do indeed hope, with others, that we will still enjoy your
virtual presence in our midst even as your temporal circumstances
change?

--
Dr. Karen Jolly
Associate Professor, History
University of Hawai`i at Manoa
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Hello

I run a small words-and-music group ('OpusAnglicanum').  Programmes are not
exclusively mediaeval but include much from the period, both words and
music.  Examples include the 'Visitatio Sepulchri' and Peregrinus' dramas
from Orleans 201, a mediation in three hours using Julian of Norwich,
programmes on the Psalms using sermons of Augustine, Chaucer's Canterbury
Pilgrims, Gawain & the Green Knight, and mediaeval carols.  I am
constructing a programme for performance in June based on the words of John
Paul I: "He is Father; even more, God is Mother". and am seeking texts which
speak of motherhood.   Can anyone point me at specific texts - sermons,
homilies, letters - in English translation which would fit the description? 
Music will comprise Marian texts set by William Byrd, in Gregorian chant,
and from the Russian orthodox tradition.

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John Rowlands-Pritchard


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Dear Otfried:

We are all your students,  and we want to thank you.


















Otfried Lieberknecht wrote:

> Dear all, dear friends,
>
> Several years of unsuccessful worldwide academic job-hunt have forced me to
> reconsider my plans, and although I am not yet giving up these plans
> entirely, I nevertheless have responsibilities and obligations towards my
> family, which do not allow me to go on as before. Tomorrow morning I will
> take the train to Heidelberg, and if I can arrange for accomodation very
> quickly, from next week on I will work there for three months as a member
> of the web-team of one of our major scientific publishers (Springer
> Science). I don't know what will come afterwards, but my feeling is not
> that it will be a job in teaching and research.
>
> If possible I will try to stay co-owner of this list (and of
> Italian-Studies as well) and will fulfill my small duties as such as best I
> can, but as I will need some time to reorganize my new life I recommend
> that in cases of urgency regarding the management of this list you put your
> trust rather in George, Carolyn and John than in me. In such cases, please
> direct your questions or complaints to
> <[log in to unmask]>, to make sure that you reach all
> the list-owners at the same time and that the quickest of us can respond.
>
> The job in Heidelberg will only be temporary, but Heidelberg is one of the
> most lovely cities of my country, also close to the place (Schwetzingen)
> where as a little child I learned to walk and to speak, whereas Berlin was
> always a sort of exile to me where I did not really achieve very much. So
> please feel invited to share my good hopes for the future rather than my
> regrets of the past.
>
> Yours,
>
>   Otfried
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Otfried Lieberknecht, Schoeneberger Str. 11, D-12163 Berlin
> tel: ++49 +30 8516675, fax: ++49 +89 6661792543, [log in to unmask]
>   Homepage for Dante Studies:
> http://members.aol.com/lieberk/welcome.html
>   Listowner of Italian-Studies:
> http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/italian-studies/
>   Listowner of Medieval-Religion:
> http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion/
>   New Homepage (under construction):
> http://www.lieberknecht.de
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<p>Otfried Lieberknecht wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Dear all, dear friends,
<p>Several years of unsuccessful worldwide academic job-hunt have forced
me to
<br>reconsider my plans, and although I am not yet giving up these plans
<br>entirely, I nevertheless have responsibilities and obligations towards
my
<br>family, which do not allow me to go on as before. Tomorrow morning
I will
<br>take the train to Heidelberg, and if I can arrange for accomodation
very
<br>quickly, from next week on I will work there for three months as a
member
<br>of the web-team of one of our major scientific publishers (Springer
<br>Science). I don't know what will come afterwards, but my feeling is
not
<br>that it will be a job in teaching and research.
<p>If possible I will try to stay co-owner of this list (and of
<br>Italian-Studies as well) and will fulfill my small duties as such as
best I
<br>can, but as I will need some time to reorganize my new life I recommend
<br>that in cases of urgency regarding the management of this list you
put your
<br>trust rather in George, Carolyn and John than in me. In such cases,
please
<br>direct your questions or complaints to
<br>&lt;[log in to unmask]>, to make sure that you
reach all
<br>the list-owners at the same time and that the quickest of us can respond.
<p>The job in Heidelberg will only be temporary, but Heidelberg is one
of the
<br>most lovely cities of my country, also close to the place (Schwetzingen)
<br>where as a little child I learned to walk and to speak, whereas Berlin
was
<br>always a sort of exile to me where I did not really achieve very much.
So
<br>please feel invited to share my good hopes for the future rather than
my
<br>regrets of the past.
<p>Yours,
<p>&nbsp; Otfried
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<br>Otfried Lieberknecht, Schoeneberger Str. 11, D-12163 Berlin
<br>tel: ++49 +30 8516675, fax: ++49 +89 6661792543, [log in to unmask]
<br>&nbsp; Homepage for Dante Studies:
<br><a href="http://members.aol.com/lieberk/welcome.html">http://members.aol.com/lieberk/welcome.html</a>
<br>&nbsp; Listowner of Italian-Studies:
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At 09:06 PM 4/28/99 +0000, John Rowlands-Pritchard wrote:
>I run a small words-and-music group ('OpusAnglicanum').  Programmes are not
>exclusively mediaeval but include much from the period, both words and
>music.  Examples include the 'Visitatio Sepulchri' and Peregrinus' dramas
>from Orleans 201, a mediation in three hours using Julian of Norwich,
>programmes on the Psalms using sermons of Augustine, Chaucer's Canterbury
>Pilgrims, Gawain & the Green Knight, and mediaeval carols.  I am
>constructing a programme for performance in June based on the words of John
>Paul I: "He is Father; even more, God is Mother". and am seeking texts which
>speak of motherhood.   Can anyone point me at specific texts - sermons,
>homilies, letters - in English translation which would fit the description? 
>

See St. Anselm's "Prayer to St. Paul" (in _The Prayers and Meditations of
St. Anselm_.  Penguin, 1973).

Tom

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It is the custom in at least some modern monasteries to pass the crosier on
from one abbot to another as a sign of the continuity of authority.

Megan McLaughlin wrote:

> >      Dear List  I know that bishops were buried - once dead that is -
> >with croziers etc.  Can anyone tell me about abbots, and, what I
> >particularly want to know, about priors?  Were they customarily attired in
> >a particular way, might they have had goods buried with them, might they
> >be buried in a particular place, eg. the chancel of the priory church
> >etc.?  I would be grateful for all suggestions and sources.  Many thanks
> >Darryl   =====================================================  Dr D.M.
> >Ogier Island Archives Service 29 Victoria Road St Peter Port Guernsey GY1
> >1HU British Isles  e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >=====================================================
>
> I have looked at quite a few customaries from houses of monks and canons
> regular, but I don't think I have ever seen a specific reference to the
> burial of an abbot with (say) his abbatial staff.  I have seen references
> to abbots buried with relics.  Many customaries specify that people being
> buried should be attired according to their order in the church--that is,
> with the appropriate vestments for their liturgical status.  Where they
> would be buried seems to have been largely a matter of individual choice,
> although I can imagine some communities may have had a particular area
> within the church reserved for abbots or priors.  However, I have seen
> requests by individual abbots to be buried in the porch, near the altar,
> etc., etc.  What really seems to have marked the status of abbots and
> priors was the type and quantity of suffrages performed for them after the
> burial--how many masses within the first thirty days, for example, or how
> much was given in alms, whether a solemn anniversary was performed, etc.
> Hope this helps.
> Megan
>
> Megan McLaughlin
> Associate Professor of History and Women's Studies
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> 309 Gregory Hall, 810 S. Wright St.
> Urbana, IL  61801     U.S.A.
> Phone:  217-244-2084
> Fax:  217-333-2297
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Estimado Otfried:

Muchas gracias por tu generosidad en compartir tu gran cúmulo de conocimiento.
Espero que pronto puedas conseguir el puesto que, ovbiamente, mereces.

Un abrazo desde México
Patricia Legorreta






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Dear Learned Ones, Could someone please tell me what is meant by "The Liturgy 
of St. James."  There is an organ composition by Simon Preston entitled  
"Alleluyas" and below the title this passage:  "At his feet the six-winged 
seraph;  Cherubim with sleepless eye, Veil their faces to the presence, as 
with ceaseless voice they cry, Alleluya, Alleluya, Alleluya, Lord most high" 
(Liturgy of St. James).  Any info. will be much appreciated!!  Marijim Thoene



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Today, 29 April, is the feast of ... 

Wilfrid the Younger, bishop of York (744): Amongst the bishops mentioned
by the Venerable Bede as having been educated at Whitby Abbey under the
rule of St Hilda was Wilfrid, the favourite student of John of Beverley. 

Hugh the Great, abbot of Cluny (1109): Abbot of Cluny for sixty years,
adviser of nine popes, consulted and venerated by all the sovereigns of
western Europe, and entrusted with the ultimate control of two hundred
monasteries. 

Robert of Molesmes, abbot (1110): Honoured as one of the founders of the
Cistercian order. 

Peter of Verona, martyr (1252): About the year 1234, Pope Gregory IX
appointed Peter as inquisitor general for the Milanese territories.
Peter was well aware that he had aroused bitter enmity, and he often
prayed for the grace to die as a martyr. As he was going from Como to
Milan, Peter was waylaid in a wood near Barlassina by two assassins. One
of the assassins struck him on the head with a bull-hook. Grievously
wounded, but still conscious, Peter Martyr commended himself and his
murderer to God in the words of St Stephen. Afterwards, if we may
believe a very old tradition, with a finger dipped in his own blood he
was tracing on the ground the words "Credo in Deum" when his assailant
despatched him with another blow. 

Catherine of Siena, Dominican tertiary (1380): Diplomat extraordinaire
to popes, townspeople and politicians.

***************
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 11 April, is the feast of ...

Leo the Great, Pope and Doctor of the Church (461) - Butler writes: "The
sagacity of Leo I, his successful defence of the Catholic faith against
heresy, as well as his political intervention with Attila the Hun and
Genseric the Vandal, raised the prestige of the Holy See to
unprecedented heights and earned for him the title of "the Great", a
distinction accorded by posterity to only two other popes." (Dear
list-members can you name those two other popes?)

Barsanuphius, Anchorite (550): He lived in a cell adjoining the
monastery at Gaza. He communicated only by writing and was believed
neither to eat nor to drink. The Patriarch of Jerusalem doubted that
anyone could lead such a holy life and had the wall of Barsanuphius'
cell destroyed, whereupon flames burst out and consumed the unfortunate
masons.

Isaac of Spoleto, Monk (550): Often repeated the following words to his
followers: "A monk who wants earthly possessions is not a monk at all."

Godeberta, Virgin (700): In the diocese of Noyon the saintly powers of
Godeberta were often invoked against calamities of all sorts, but
especially against drought and epidemics.

Guthlac, Hermit (714): One day, as he was talking with a man called
Wilfrid, two swallows alighted on his shoulders and then perched on his
arms and knees, chattering all the time as though quite at home. In
reply to Wilfrid's exclamations of surprise Guthlac said: "Have you not
read that he who elects to be unknown of men becomes known of wild
creatures and is visited by angels? For he who is frequented by men
cannot be frequented by the holy angels." (Yet another saint who was for
the birds.)

Waltman, Abbot (1138): Preached against the heretical teachings of the
wandering preacher Tanchelm.

Rainerius Inclusus, Hermit (1237): Was enclosed for 22 years in a
hermit's cell adjoining the cathedral of Osnabruck. Rainerius used every
device he could to mortify his flesh. Next to his skin he wore a shirt
of chain-mail and hair which was concealed by a coarse habit, and he
scourged himself regularly until he bled. When asked why he tortured his
body , he would reply: "As our Lord Jesus Christ suffered in all his
limbs for me, so do I wish out of love for him, to suffer in all my
members." Rainerius at least indulged in a drink every now and then: on
Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays he fasted on bread and beer.

*****************
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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An enquiry from a friend at Cambridge about Llandderfel reminds me that I
meant to post a notice about this saint and the fate of his shrine. Derfel
Gadarn (Derfel the Strong) was according to tradition one of Arthur's
knights who retired to the religious life after the battle of Camlaan (like
several others). He founded a church at Llandderfel on the slopes of Mynydd
Maen above Cwmbran in Monmouthshire and was said to have been buried on
Bardsey Island (again, like many others.)

However, Derfel's main shrine is the church of Llandderfel in
Merionethshire. Here there was a huge wooden equestrian statue of him which
was the focus of large-scale pilgrimage. Ellis Price's report to Cromwell
claimed to have seen 5-600 pilgrims there on 5 April 1538. (Ellis Price
really merits the description of 'hit-man'. Nicknamed Y Doctor Coch, The
Red Doctor,  he held several senior ecclesiastical posts without ever being
ordained and took his mistress on a tour of inspection of the morals of the
North Wales clergy in 1535. A sort of 16C Chris Woodhead?)  

There was a tradition that it would take a whole forest to burn Derfel's
statue. With grim humour, when it had been sent to London, the reformers
used it as the principal component of the fire over which they slow-roasted
John Forest, an Observant franciscan who had rashly opposed Henry's
policies. Latimer jumped up and down with delight and preached one of his
'Rejoice! Rejoice' sermons. (Revisionist? Who - me? I only dislike Latimer
because he had such disgusting handwriting.)

There is a strange carving of an animal still at Llandderfel in
Merionethshire which is said to be Derfel's horse. However, it is a seated
figure and from the photographs I have seen looks more like a stag (which
was of course a figure rich in symbolism in medieval iconography).
The Merionethshire Llandderfel and the one in Monmouthshire both claimed
relics of the saint. There was also an image (possibly on a smaller scale)
at the Monmouthshire Llandderfel. Within a few years the Crown's officials
in Monmouthshire were claiming that their image too had contributed to the
bonfire.

We walk past the subsidiary shrine near Cwmbran on the first day of our
annual pilgrimage from Llantarnam to Penrhys at the end of May. Local
tradition is that the route from Llantarnam made a dog-leg to the north
specifically to pass this shrine and that of the even more obscure St Dial
(of whom NOTHING is known). 

(More details of the Penrhys pilgrimage when I have them)

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In a message dated 99-04-29 07:28:03 EDT, you write:

<< earned for him the title of "the Great", a
 distinction accorded by posterity to only two other popes." (Dear
 list-members can you name those two other popes?) >>

Okay, I give up.  Besides Gregory I, who else?  I don't have Butler available 
but consulted _Ox. Dict. of Popes_ and Kelly states that Leo and Gregory were 
the only two.

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A friend threatened to collect for me all images of Peter of Verona (aka
Peter Martyr) as the patron of headache sufferers - an honor he might
share with Hildegard of Bingen, if you follow one line of interpretation.

tom izbicki



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Nicholas I & Gregory I are the other great ones.
tom izbicki



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I know that verse from the hymn "Let all mortal flesh keep silent," found
in Episcopalisn hymnals and (surely) in others.

There is a nice brief entry on the liturgy of St. James on p. 859 of The
Oxford Dictionary of the Christian church, 3rd ed. (1997).  It is found in
Greek and Syriac attributed to "James the brother of the Lord."

tom izbicki



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There are only two, Leo and Gregory, who have commonly been titled "the
Great"; others certainly were great popes but have not been styled such.
John Paul II is being spoken of by many as likely to become the third pope
to be called "The Great."

Dennis Martin

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 [log in to unmask] wrote:

> In a message dated 99-04-29 07:28:03 EDT, you write:
> 
> << earned for him the title of "the Great", a
>  distinction accorded by posterity to only two other popes." (Dear
>  list-members can you name those two other popes?) >>
> 
> Okay, I give up.  Besides Gregory I, who else?  I don't have Butler available 
> but consulted _Ox. Dict. of Popes_ and Kelly states that Leo and Gregory were 
> the only two.
> 
> Mark
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Dear Otfried:  I too have delighted in your generosity and erudition on v
arious lists over the last few years, and have benefited immeasurably from
your erudition.  I feel particularly sad over your departmre -- one hopes
temporarily! -- from the academic world, given that Rutgers (not my
department, happily -- but still...) was one of the institutions that have
failed to give you safe haven.  Not one of R.U.'s better moments.  I do
hope we'll still have the pleasure of your presence on Medieval Religion
from time to time -- and wish you every success  in your future endeavors.
Elizabeth Parker McLachlan, Art History, Rutgers University




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Dear Otfried (and list),

I'd like to offer a few encouraging words! I know that it is tough to
leave traditional academe and one's field, because I really did the
same thing, moving into a non-traditional academic job and out of the
history of exegesis and into documentary editing and theatre history. 
But there are rewards and satisfactions in publishing/editing, too,
and the challenge and excitement of learning about other disciplines
will be there too. If you are lucky, as I was, and dedicated (as I
know you are!) you'll be able to carve out some space in your life to
continue with the field that you really love, too. It is possible! 

So, with thanks for all your contributions to the list, I'll say 'Good
luck!' -- Don't give up the hope for a position in your field but
don't despair, either: it's not so bad out here!

Yours,
Abigail

Abigail Ann Young (Dr), Associate Editor/ Records of Early English Drama/
Victoria College/ 150 Charles Street W/ Toronto Ontario Canada
Phone (416) 585-4504/ FAX (416) 585-4594/ [log in to unmask]
List-owner of REED-L <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed-l.html>
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed.html => REED's home page
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/stage.html => our theatre resource page
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~young => my home page



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I've been trying to find information concerning the burial of abbots and
priors but I can't find anything that would be helpful. I'm sure some
abbots were buried with their pontificalia (at least the vestments), if
they had been granted the use of the pontificalia. I can't imagine that
priors have any special insignia (unless perhaps they were cathedral
priors). Our own custom is to bury an abbot in cuculla and stole, the
priests in cuculla and stole, the brothers in cuculla, and the simply
professed in their habits. During the time when the body of an abbot is
viewed, he wears his pectoral cross as well but the pectoral is removed
before the coffin is closed. Older monks have a rosary in their hands
(since our monastery is dedicated to the Blessed Virgn under her title
of the Immaculate Conception). 

There was an exhibit in Paris in 1991, I think, which had (I think) the
habit of Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, I think from his coffin. A
catalogue of the exhibit might describe what was found in the coffin.

Thomas Sullivan, OSB

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John B.Wickstrom [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:52 PM
> To:	[log in to unmask]
> Subject:	Re: Burial of Priors
> 
> It is the custom in at least some modern monasteries to pass the
> crosier on
> from one abbot to another as a sign of the continuity of authority.
> 
> Megan McLaughlin wrote:
> 
> > >      Dear List  I know that bishops were buried - once dead that
> is -
> > >with croziers etc.  Can anyone tell me about abbots, and, what I
> > >particularly want to know, about priors?  Were they customarily
> attired in
> > >a particular way, might they have had goods buried with them, might
> they
> > >be buried in a particular place, eg. the chancel of the priory
> church
> > >etc.?  I would be grateful for all suggestions and sources.  Many
> thanks
> > >Darryl   =====================================================  Dr
> D.M.
> > >Ogier Island Archives Service 29 Victoria Road St Peter Port
> Guernsey GY1
> > >1HU British Isles  e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > >=====================================================
> >
> > I have looked at quite a few customaries from houses of monks and
> canons
> > regular, but I don't think I have ever seen a specific reference to
> the
> > burial of an abbot with (say) his abbatial staff.  I have seen
> references
> > to abbots buried with relics.  Many customaries specify that people
> being
> > buried should be attired according to their order in the
> church--that is,
> > with the appropriate vestments for their liturgical status.  Where
> they
> > would be buried seems to have been largely a matter of individual
> choice,
> > although I can imagine some communities may have had a particular
> area
> > within the church reserved for abbots or priors.  However, I have
> seen
> > requests by individual abbots to be buried in the porch, near the
> altar,
> > etc., etc.  What really seems to have marked the status of abbots
> and
> > priors was the type and quantity of suffrages performed for them
> after the
> > burial--how many masses within the first thirty days, for example,
> or how
> > much was given in alms, whether a solemn anniversary was performed,
> etc.
> > Hope this helps.
> > Megan
> >
> > Megan McLaughlin
> > Associate Professor of History and Women's Studies
> > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> > 309 Gregory Hall, 810 S. Wright St.
> > Urbana, IL  61801     U.S.A.
> > Phone:  217-244-2084
> > Fax:  217-333-2297
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> 
> 
> 
> John B. Wickstrom
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Julian of Norwich, REVELATIONS OF DIVINE LOVE, (Penguin).

Regards,
Jim Kerbaugh

John Rowlands-Pritchard wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I run a small words-and-music group ('OpusAnglicanum').  Programmes are not
> exclusively mediaeval but include much from the period, both words and
> music.  Examples include the 'Visitatio Sepulchri' and Peregrinus' dramas
> from Orleans 201, a mediation in three hours using Julian of Norwich,
> programmes on the Psalms using sermons of Augustine, Chaucer's Canterbury
> Pilgrims, Gawain & the Green Knight, and mediaeval carols.  I am
> constructing a programme for performance in June based on the words of John
> Paul I: "He is Father; even more, God is Mother". and am seeking texts which
> speak of motherhood.   Can anyone point me at specific texts - sermons,
> homilies, letters - in English translation which would fit the description?
> Music will comprise Marian texts set by William Byrd, in Gregorian chant,
> and from the Russian orthodox tradition.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John Rowlands-Pritchard


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Dear all,
It appears that this liturgy is avaliable in English translation as a 
downloadable zip file: 
http://www.trinitysoa.force9.co.uk/MISC/liturgy.htm
Best Wishes
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Dear Tom,

You win! Most remember Popes Leo the Great and Gregory the Great, but
poor old Nicholas is often forgotten.

The Old Catholic Encyclopedia writes of Nicholas:

Nicholas (d. 867): one of the great popes of the Middle Ages, who
exerted decisive influence upon the historical development of the papacy
and its position among Christian nations of Western Europe ...

All the best,
Carolyn
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Thomas Izbicki wrote:

> Nicholas I & Gregory I are the other great ones.
> tom izbicki
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Does anyone know why the feast of Catherine of Siena was moved in the
recent reforms from its traditional date (like so many) of April 30?

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Megan McLaughlin's gleanings from actual documents correspond roughly 
with my own firmly-held, totally-groundless conjectures, though i always
thought that many of the large number of surviving croziers round about were
from *abbots'* tombs (on no evidence whatever, just 
thoughtlessness).

*Might* be worth a look to try and run down the provenance of the ones we
have. 
I have no idea of the more recent literature (they do show up with some
frequency in exhibitions, but has there ever been a show actually *devoted* to
them?) 
Peter Lasko's _Ars Sacra, 800-1200_ (1972) in the Pelican History of Art
series *might* be a place to start getting a handle on the older lit.

>Where they would be buried seems to have been largely a matter of individual
choice, although I can imagine some communities may have had a particular area
within the church reserved for abbots or priors.  

That sounds right.

I would suppose as well that each house would have its own, more or less
unique, long-standing customs, in part driven by the fabric of the place
(can't plant the guy in an ambulatory chapel if you've got one of those
new-fangled, no-frills, flat-ended cistercian piles that crankie ole Bernie
dreamed up).

And, of course, "priories" could be quite large and important places.
Am I wrong, or were most Cluniac houses headed by Priors, rather than Abbots?
I know that (at least) Saint-Martin-des-Champs was.

True for Marmoutier, at least, which had hundreds of the things all over,
mostly small but some (St. Martin @ Chartres) quite substantial.

Unlike Abbots or Priors, who were perhaps invariably buried in "their"
churches, French Bishops were not infrequently(?) laid down, not in their
"own" cathedrals, but elsewhere, and surely at their own instruction. 

At Chartres, Ivo (+1115?) was buried (as was his nephew, who was a canon of
the cathedral) in the collegial of St. John (now obliterated without a trace),
which he had reformed along the lines of his reform of St. 
Quentin at Beauvais and was no doubt extraordinarily attached to. 

Ivo's 12th c. sucessors were put to rest in the benedictine house of St. Mary
of Johasaphat at near-by Leves, begining with Godfrey of Leves +1140?), who
founded the place on his ancestrial lands. 
The beautifully carved sarcophagus of Bishop John of Salisbury (+1180) 
was unearthed there at the turn of this century (partly visible on the left of
the Voile here: http://www.angelfire.com/de/centrechartraine/ ).

>However, I have seen requests by individual abbots to be buried in the porch,
near the altar, etc., etc.  

A tour through the surviving Obituaries (Necrologies, "Books of Life") might
be of considerable use, being (I assume) somewhat more common than your
Customaries. 

Veritable mines of all sorts of information, those things.

For most of France these were published--still *are* being published, in good
French glacial fashion--by the Academie des Inscriptions, in a series called
_Obituaires de la France_ (or somesuch), organized by provence and diocese.
The (ancient) Province of Sens, at least, was done c.1900 and includes those
for Chartres (most known to me), wherein 
mention of *where* a bishop/abbot/prior was buried is not at all 
uncommon.

For example part of the necrology of Leves survives and, I believe, mentions
*where* in that church the Bishops (at least) were planted.

There are two or three recent (80's) supplementary volumes which attempt to
catalogue all of the surving French Obituaries (and there are a *lot* of
them), running down and describing all the mss and refs to where they might be
published, if at all.

>What really seems to have marked the status of abbots and priors was the type
and quantity of suffrages performed for them after the burial--how many masses
within the first thirty days, for example, or how much was given in alms,
whether a solemn anniversary was performed, etc.

Yes.

And, again for Chartres, for many of the major cathedral dignitaries (Deans
through Capicerii) and even "ordinary" canons, as well.

Not at all uncommon for these "terms" to be recorded--almost as a kind of
contract (including exactly *how* his brothers were to pay for the cakes and
candles) in the Necrology obit notice, along with all of the good deeds which
the fellow did for the company. 

My own thought is that, for "my" part of France, from at least the 12th 
c. actual, formal *wills* were the norm (at least for the secular
clergy)--though none have survived, that i know of.

The closest thing to a will i know is an extraordinary charter of Abbot Udo of
St. Peter (Pe`re, if you insist) of Chartres (1130-50), wherein he endows the
library and his own anniversary feast, setting out in some specificity how it
is to be celebrated and paid for.

Goodness, I can't have this kind of fun: I'm finally back home again in
Indiana with only about three weeks' work to do before Kalamazoo. 
I'll try to get my priorities straight and get on to the pressing Saint
Fripette problem. 

On the other hand, Bloomington is a good yard-sale town; I'm sure to pick up a
copy of her opera omnia (in the 4 vol. quarto ed., not those common, nasty
16mos.) this weekend and find some live one at the zoo to foist it off on. 
Some Benedictines have a special *thing* for her, I understand.

Best to all from here,


Christopher

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I once interested a grad student at Notre Dame that he should look at
Nicholas I as a topic, but he did not make it through exams.  Anyone
interested?

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The Liturgy of St. James was an important early liturgy, probably
originating at Antioch but then revised in the 5th century or so in
Jerusalem.  It exists in two major recensions, one Greek and one Syriac.
After the monophysite schisms, monophysite churches in Palestine and Syria
continued its use; in the Chalcedonian churches, it was replaced by the
so-called Liturgy of Constantinople.  The liturgy is still used by Syrian
Jacobite (i.e. Monophysite) and Nestorian churches (particularly in India)
and by other communions which use the term "Antiochene." I don't think the
Coptic church uses it, but I am willing to stand corrected.  Many Byzantine
rite and Orthodox communions use the liturgy on the feast of St. James.
The Maronite Rite uses a reformed/revised version of it.

Information is tricky to find.  The most helpful general article on the
Liturgy of St. James is from the old Catholic Encyclopedia, under the title
"Liturgy of Jerusalem" (http://www.knight.org/advent/cathen/08371a.htm).
More basic info can be gleaned from the New Catholic Encyclopedia, under
"Syrian Rite."

There is a brief but helpful article by G. J. Cuming, "Further studies in
the liturgy of St James," Studia Liturgica, 18/2 (1988): 161-169.

Other texts you might be able to get, especially by interlibrary loan
(these are from my own handwritten notes, so you may want to use WorldCat
or something to get full references):

"Anaphora : the divine liturgy of Saint James, the first Bishop of
Jerusalem : according to the rite of the Syrian Orthodox Church of
Antioch,"  trans. Mar Athanasius Yeshue Samuel,  1967.

"The Greek liturgy of St. James, edited with an English introduction and
notes : together with a Latin version of the Syriac copy, and the Greek
text restored, etc." ed. and trans.  W. Trollope.  Edinburgh : T. & T.
Clark, 1848.

"The liturgy of St. James as presently used," ed. and intro. Phillip Tovey.
Cambridge : Grove Books, 1998.

A Russian/Slavic version may be found in "The Divine liturgies of Saint
Apostles James and Mark" (bilingual English & Russian [I think]).
Columbus, Ohio: Resource Center for Medieval Slavic Studies, Ohio State U.,
1996.

I think Robert Taft, SJ, "Byzantine Rite: A Short History" may have a brief
discussion of the liturgy of St. James.

A source in German that I have not looked at:    "Jacobus-Liturgie:
Liturgie der Vorgeweihten Gaben." Zürich: Ostreferat, 1986."  I'm a little
suspicious of this one, since the "liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts" is
usually attributed to Gregory the Great / Gregory Diaolgos; but there may
be a connection there that I don't know.


I hope this helps!


Patrick.



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Thomas Izbicki wrote:

<I once interested a grad student at Notre Dame that he should look at
Nicholas I as a topic, but he did not make it through exams.  Anyone
interested?

Now *there's* a bit of salesmanship.

"St. Nicholas, patron saint of qualifying exams."

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>Aphraates, (345): Hermit whose miracles not only cured men and women but
>also Emperor Valens' favourite horse!

Is this the Aphraates who wrote the "Demonstrations", edited under the name
of Aphrahat in N&PNF vol. 13?

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At 13:26 28/04/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>      Dear List  I know that bishops were buried - once dead that is -
>>with croziers etc.  Can anyone tell me about abbots, and, what I
>>particularly want to know, about priors?  Were they customarily attired in
>>a particular way, might they have had goods buried with them, might they
>>be buried in a particular place, eg. the chancel of the priory church
>>etc.?  I would be grateful for all suggestions and sources.  

Abelard's instructions to Heloise may be of interest:

"The body of the dead woman must then be washed at once by the sisters, clad
in some cheap but clean garment and stockings, and laid on a bier, the head
covered by the veil.  These coverings must be firmly stitched or bound to
the body and not afterwards removed.  The body shall be carried into the
church by the sisters for the monks to give it proper burial, and the
sisters meanwhile shall devote themselves to psalm-singing and prayer in the
oratory.

"The burial of an abbess [and of course, Heloise was the abbess] shall have
only one feature to distinguish it from that of others:  her entire body
shall be wrapped only in a hair-shirt and sewn up in this as in a sack."

[Penguin Classics translation, pp. 216-7]

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Dear members of the list:
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As I approach the end of a course that involved students looking at Domesday
records, I have as usual been bamboozled by questions I cannot answer.  Has
anyone done any recent work on prebends held by cathedral canons? 
Specifically, the question concerned a distinction between manors held "for
the use of the chapter" and lands that seemed to be in the hands of a
particular canon, for his own use.  Is there an agreed-upon progression from
community possession to individual holdings?  And if so, approximately when
did it occur?

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It might be worth while consulting Frederick Paxton, Christianizing death
(Ithaca, 1990).

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You might try looking at Caroline Walker Bynum's article "Jesus as
Mother.." in the edited volume of the same name (on 12th cen
Cistercians) as well as her Holy Feast, Holy Fast, which has pictures
and textual references to nurturing images of God.

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this is a great idea!

At 09:38 AM 4/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear colleagues,
>
>I would like to propose an idea for taking the list a step further.  It may
>be more than we want to engage in just now, but perhaps it might have some
>utility.
>
>I belong to another professional list of NT scholars which specifically
>treats Pauline studies.  (I am not a NT scholar, but I have a lot of NT
>training and I teach it, so I try to keep up in the field.)  Anyhow, the
>list maintains a Web-site on which members may post drafts of
>articles-in-progress to be commented on by list members.  Only list-members
>have access, and comments are sent off-list directly to the author.
>
>This would require somebody who could not only construct a (hopefully
>modest) Website, but also knows their internet plumbing enough to put a
>modest security apparatus (password access) in place.
>
>(Or perhaps such a site exists and I'm not aware of it?)
>
>Yours,
>
>
>Patrick.
>__________________________________
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 [log in to unmask] wrote:

                                             "At his feet the six-winged 
> seraph;  Cherubim with sleepless eye, Veil their faces to the presence, as 
> with ceaseless voice they cry, Alleluya, Alleluya, Alleluya, Lord most high" 
> (Liturgy of St. James).  Any info. will be much appreciated!!  Marijim Thoene
> 

The source for the words quoted is Isaiah 6:1-3.  These words are also
reflected in Luther's hymn, Jesaia, dem Propheten.  This hymn he used
as the sanctus in his German Mass of 1526.


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For an English translation of the Liturgy of St. James in use in the Syrian
Orthodox Church of Antioch:

http://www.netadventure.com/~soc/Liturgy/Anaphora/index.html

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        Dear listmembers:

        I have recently come across a 16th c. tapestry with a strange
depiction of the Trinity: it is a three-headed woman with a halo surrounding
her heads and another one around her right hand. I saw it in a bad photo, so
I first assumed that it was the personification of Prudence; but when I
finally got a  good detail I could read an inscription identifying the
figure as TRINITAS. Anything to do with the 'God as mother' discussion? 

        Thanks for any idea!

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Barbara Newman, From Virile Woman to WomanChrist: Studies in Medieval
Religion and Literature,  Philadelphia, 1995, has a whole chapter on the
female trinity.

Cheers, Esther
Esther Cohen
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At 12:24 29/04/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Today, 11 April, is the feast of ...
>
>Leo the Great, Pope and Doctor of the Church (461) - Butler writes: "The
>sagacity of Leo I, his successful defence of the Catholic faith against
>heresy, as well as his political intervention with Attila the Hun and
>Genseric the Vandal, raised the prestige of the Holy See to
>unprecedented heights and earned for him the title of "the Great", a
>distinction accorded by posterity to only two other popes." (Dear
>list-members can you name those two other popes?)

I believe this question arose once before.  Gregory I would of course be
one; I cannot think who the other might be.

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At 10:09 29/04/99 EST5EDT, you wrote:
>I just got a notice for this conference in my mailbox. I though I'd 
>post the information to you all:
>
>THE BIBLE AS BOOK: THE TRANSMISSION OF THE LATIN TEXT
>May 26 - 29, at Hampton Court, Herefordshire.
>
>>From the description, I quote that this conference "will seek to 
>explore the development of Latin Biblical texts, from early insular 
>versions through to the printed volumes of the early modern era."
>Trips to Hereford and Hay-on-Wye are included in the program.
>
>More information: The Scriptorium, center for Christian Antiquities, 
>tel. (in USA) 1 (800) 333-8373, or  1 (616) 847-7220.

Sounds marvellous!  do you happen to have any contact address for those
benighted souls among us who live in the U.K.?

Incidentally, fools rush in where angels fear to tread, and being no angel I
have undertaken to teach a course entitled "The Latin Bible" - The history,
text, literature and exegesis of the Latin Bible.  Bibliographies and hints
would be welcomed if offered in a spirit of charity.

Oriens.



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Can anyone recommend some 
>>sources for late antique/early medieval beliefs about Virtue?  I'm 
>>afraid I'm not quite sure where to go for this.
>
>I'll have a think.  Bill.

Having thunk, briefly:  you need to look particularly at the cult of relics,
which is of considerable prominence in the period you mention.  Start with
the article "Relics" in the new edition of the Oxford Dictionary of the
Christian church (what do you mean, you haven't yet bought the third
edition?)  It has a useful bibliography.  It also mentions the healing power
of handkerchieves that had been in contact with St Paul's body (Acts 19:12)
which I don't think I mentioned in my discussion but which is as clear an
example as you could wish of the notion of 'Virtue'.

The Supple Doctor.



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Dear Carolyn,

There has been some useful work on canons and cathedral chapters in the
recent past: David Lepine on the canons of Exeter,  Barrie Dobson on York,
Helene Millet on Laon, and Everett Crosby's recent book, _Bishop and
Chapter_,  for example; older works include those by Kathleen Edwards,
Geoffrey Barralcough, Charles Dereine, and others. There is, to my
knowledge, no recent work on the treatment of the prebend (or benefices) in
the macro view you mentioned. My own understanding, and limited generally
to the 13th and 14th centuries, is that each chapter developed in its own
way, to accommodate local conditions. I think that you must first
distinguish between monastic and secular cathedral chapters. In monastic
chapters, which in England constituted about half of the 17 cathedral
chapters, the endowment of the cathedral belonged to the chapter as a whole
with the bishop and the chapter each having a separate mensa. Secular
chapters provided for each of the beneficed canons with livings from the
cathedral holdings and new canons were appointed to specific benefices,
some of which could be quite wealthy. Dobson has pointed out that some
prebends in the see of York had a greater income that some English
episcopal sees. Obviously, these benefices were generally reserved for
royal appointees. English chapters generally contained about 25 to 50
canons, whereas some French cathedral chapters were quite large with
between 50 and 70 canons. Provision had to made for these canons and
property was often acquired to support them. Your student should keep in
mind that not all canons were in cathedral chapters: there were collegiate
chapters and houses of regular canons that may have had endowments but
probably not prebends. Keep in mind that these are only very general
comments and conditions varied in place and time. Any of the books by the
scholars mentioned above can direct your student to more comprehensive
materials.

Dale Streeter
Department of History
University of Wisconsin-Madison




>As I approach the end of a course that involved students looking at Domesday
>records, I have as usual been bamboozled by questions I cannot answer.  Has
>anyone done any recent work on prebends held by cathedral canons?
>Specifically, the question concerned a distinction between manors held "for
>the use of the chapter" and lands that seemed to be in the hands of a
>particular canon, for his own use.  Is there an agreed-upon progression from
>community possession to individual holdings?  And if so, approximately when
>did it occur?
>
>Carolyn Schriber<




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Nurturing, if not maternal per se, is the image of Jesus as Pelican, a
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Dear Carolyn Schriber

I work on prebends and have some views about Domesday records of 
them. I've published articles touching on this in Journal of 
Ecclesiastical History 37 1986 and in D. Whitehead, ed. Medieval Art, 
Architecture and Archaeology at Hereford, British Archaeological 
Association Conference Transactions xv, 1995.

Domesday entries for cathedrals can be a bit (probably deliberately) 
misleading in encouraging us to think of communal property management 
where they talk about property being 'ad victus canonicorum'. I think 
they may have been trying to prevent people outside the church estate 
from finding out about the internal management (cf. Galbraith's 
remarks on a different aspect of church estate management in EGR 44 
1929). I suspect that individual holdings by canons of separate 
territories may have been quite common by 1066, and certainly by 
1086, at any rate at London and Hereford. Wells and Exeter, however, 
do seem to have observed vita communis from the pontificates of 
resepctively Giso and Leofric and their estates were managed 
communally - Wells' up to the 1130s, Exeter's much later.
 
The term praebenda used of an individual holding 
does not occur until after the Norman Conquest as far as I am aware, 
but I don't think that makes pre-1066 individual holdings impossible. 
They might have operated like the 10th c Worcester leases, at least 
one of which was for a member of Worcester cathedral community. We 
can't necessarily expect these holdings to have been permanent in the 
way that 12th c ones were; there was probably a lot of fluctuation. 
Nor would it necessarily have been the case that every canon in the 
community had one (though that might have happened).


These are random thoughts but if there is anything more specific I 
could help with, let me know. I'm in a bit of a rush this afternoon
Julia Barrow
University of Nottingham




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As I approach the end of a course that involved students looking at Domesday
records, I have as usual been bamboozled by questions I cannot answer.  Has
anyone done any recent work on prebends held by cathedral canons? 
Specifically, the question concerned a distinction between manors held "for
the use of the chapter" and lands that seemed to be in the hands of a
particular canon, for his own use.  Is there an agreed-upon progression from
community possession to individual holdings?  And if so, approximately when
did it occur?

Carolyn Schriber


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The succession from communal praebenda to individual praebendae is 
fairly normal on the continent, but the latter start to emerge it is 
worth noting that it was normal to manage all the prebendal 
estates as one and then make distributions from the income, and it 
was these distributions which were the 'individual' prebends. The 
switchover period varies, but I think Emile Lesne (the best authority 
on the subject) saw it starting in the late 11th c in France. For 
Germany it's more like the 12th c, sometimes late in that period, 
and here it was usually linked with the separation of the chapter 
estates into two blocks, one for the provost (to stop him from 
continuing to control the canons' income) and the other for the 
canons. 


Further to what I said about prebendal endowments in England, for the 
post-Conquest developments probably the best starting point now is 
the introduction to each of Diana Greenway's volumes in her new 
edition of the 1066-1300 John Le Neve Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae, 
plus the description of each prebend in each volume.

Best wishes
Julia Barrow


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The latest information I have includes e-mail addresses:

Ellen N. Middlebrook
Managing Director, The Van Kampen Collection

The Van Kampen Foundation
101 Washington Street, Suite 770
Grand Haven, Michigan 49417

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www.scriptorium.org

I participated in the conference on the Greek Bible last year, and it was
a memorable and valuable occasion, in a beautiful, if somewhat remote,
setting.

Bob
-- 
Robert A. Kraft, Religious Studies, University of Pennsylvania
227 Logan Hall (Philadelphia PA 19104-6304); tel. 215 898-5827
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> At 10:09 29/04/99 EST5EDT, you wrote:
> >I just got a notice for this conference in my mailbox. I though I'd 
> >post the information to you all:
> >
> >THE BIBLE AS BOOK: THE TRANSMISSION OF THE LATIN TEXT
> >May 26 - 29, at Hampton Court, Herefordshire.
> >
> >>From the description, I quote that this conference "will seek to 
> >explore the development of Latin Biblical texts, from early insular 
> >versions through to the printed volumes of the early modern era."
> >Trips to Hereford and Hay-on-Wye are included in the program.
> >
> >More information: The Scriptorium, center for Christian Antiquities, 
> >tel. (in USA) 1 (800) 333-8373, or  1 (616) 847-7220.
> 
> Sounds marvellous!  do you happen to have any contact address for those
> benighted souls among us who live in the U.K.?
> 
> Incidentally, fools rush in where angels fear to tread, and being no angel I
> have undertaken to teach a course entitled "The Latin Bible" - The history,
> text, literature and exegesis of the Latin Bible.  Bibliographies and hints
> would be welcomed if offered in a spirit of charity.
> 
> Oriens.



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On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, JULIA BARROW wrote:

> The succession from communal praebenda to individual praebendae is 
> fairly normal on the continent, but the latter start to emerge it is 
> worth noting that it was normal to manage all the prebendal 
> estates as one and then make distributions from the income, and it 
> was these distributions which were the 'individual' prebends. The 
> switchover period varies, but I think Emile Lesne (the best authority 
> on the subject) saw it starting in the late 11th c in France. For 
> Germany it's more like the 12th c, sometimes late in that period, 
> and here it was usually linked with the separation of the chapter 
> estates into two blocks, one for the provost (to stop him from 
> continuing to control the canons' income) and the other for the 
> canons. 
> 
> 

For Poitou-- 3rd qtr of the 10th cent.

Mike 



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I have just expanded the material available on my Web page to include
6 translations of letters and other material by Rupert of Deutz,
Hildegard of Bingen, and Guibert of Gembloux:

Rupert's apologetic preface and letter to Abbot Kuno, from the
Commentaria in Iohannis euangelium, and excerpts from book 1 of his
commentary on the Benedictine Rule;

Hildegard's Protestificatio to Scivias and her first letter to
Guibert;

and Guibert's first two letters to Hildegard (which prompted her first
letter)

This is a work-in-progress in the sense that I hope to complete the
translation of book 1 of the commentary on the Benedictine Rule and
add the rest of the Hildegard-Guibert correspondence over the next few
months. I hope it will be useful.

Yours,
Abigail

Abigail Ann Young (Dr), Associate Editor/ Records of Early English Drama/
Victoria College/ 150 Charles Street W/ Toronto Ontario Canada
Phone (416) 585-4504/ FAX (416) 585-4594/ [log in to unmask]
List-owner of REED-L <http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed-l.html>
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed.html => REED's home page
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/stage.html => our theatre resource page
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~young => my home page



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Today, 12 April, is the feast of ... 

Julius I, pope (352) 

Zeno, bishop of Verona (371): Seemed to be very concerned with
"liturgical correctness": Inveighed against the abuses(?) of the *agape*
and also against the practice of interrupting funeral masses by loud
lamentations. Zeno also makes allusions to the practice of giving medals
to the newly baptised. 

Sabas the Goth, martyr (372): A martyr only after much effort: FIRST
TRY: When, at the outset of the persecution, magistrates ordered the
Christians to eat meat sacrificed to idols, certain pagans, who had
Christian relatives whom they wished to save, persuaded the officials to
give Christians meat which had not been offered to idols. Sabas loudly
denounced this ambiguous proceeding: not only did he himself refuse to
eat, but he declared that those who consented to do so had betrayed
the faith. This time he was not martyred by the magistrates but some
Christians were so displeased with his behaviour that he was kicked out
of town. But he soon returned... SECOND TRY: Another persecution broke
out, and some of the principal inhabitants offered to swear that there
were no Christians in town. As they were about to make the oath, Sabas
presented himself and said: "I am a Christian!" Upon finding that Sabas
was poor the officials of the persecution said: "Such a fellow can do us
neither harm nor good." And they let him go. THIRD TRY: During another
persecution a few years later, Sabas was tied to a rack and tortured.
During the tortures' lunchbreak, a woman took pity on Sabas and untied
him, but he refused to escape. He then insulted the leader of the
soldiers who then ordered Sabas to be drowned. When some soldiers were
leading Sabas to the river, they took pity on him and said that he was
free to go. FOURTH TRY: Sabas, however, upbraided the soldiers for not
carrying out their orders. The executioners then plunged him in to the
river. THE END. 

Alferius and others, Abbots of La Cava (Eleventh - Thirteenth Centuries) 

Andrew of Montereale, Preacher (1480): Joined the Hermits of St
Augustine at the age of fourteen. For fifty years he preached in Italy
and in France. It is recorded of him that he never went to see any
public show or spectacle, and that he never laughed. 

Angelo of Chivasso, Franciscan (1495): Educated at the University of
Bologna in civil and canon law. Upon returning to his native Piedmont he
was made a senator. As long as his mother was alive he did not join a
religious order and immersed himself in his magisterial duties. But when
his mother died he divided his possessions between his elder brother and
the poor, and retired to a Franciscan friary at Genoa. Catherine of
Genoa consulted him and Charles I, Duke of Savoy chose him to be his
confessor.

*******************
Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 13 April, is the feast of ... 

Hermenegild, martyr (585): Gregory the Great attributed the conversion
of the whole of Visigothic Spain to Hermenegild. However, Hermenegild
owed his conversion from Arianism to Catholicism to his wife Ingunda. 

Carpus, Papylus and Agathonice, martyrs (170 or 250) 

Martius, or Mars, abbot (530): The memory of Martius, abbot of Clermont,
has been preserved by Gregory of Tours whose father had been cured by
him of a fever. 

Ida of Boulogne, widow (1113): Ida prayed ardently for the success of
the First Crusade. While she was praying for the safety of her son
Godfrey of Bouillon, it was revealed to her that at that very moment he
was making his victorious entry into Jerusalem. 

James of Certaldo, abbot (1292): Camaldolese monk whose devotion so
strongly affected his father that he resigned his property to two other
sons to enter the monastery where James was abbot. 

Ida of Louvain, Cistercian nun (1290): Received the stigmata. She was
well know for her ecstasies and miracles. A fragrant perfume was often
perceived by those who came near her. While listening to her sisters
sing the Psalms she was overtaken by God's grace and lifted into the
choir of the Seraphim. 

Margaret of Citta-DI-Castello, Dominican tertiary (1320): Educator of
children. Among other things she taught them the psalms which in spite
of her blindness she had learnt by heart. When at prayer she was
frequently raised a foot or more from the ground. 

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Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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UK
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Today, 14 April, is the feast of ... 

Justin Martyr (165) 

Tiburtus, Valerius and Maximus, martyrs (date unknown) 

Ardalion, martyr (300): Started his career as a pagan actor. On stage
before a great crowd he was pretending to be a Christian who refused to
renounce his faith and was about to be executed. The excellence of his
acting aroused the enthusiasm of his audience and also convinced him to
convert to Christianity. 

Lambert, archbishop of Lyons (688) 

Bernard of Tiron, abbot (1117): One of the all time great wandering
preachers. 

Lanvinus, Carthusian monk (1120): He died on 11 April 1120, but his
feast is kept in the Carthusian order on 14 April. 

Caradoc, hermit (1124): Caradoc had great power over animals. On one
occasion by a gentle movement of his hand he was able to calm a pack of
viscious hounds that were quite out of the owner's control. 

Benezet, or Little Benedict the Bridge Builder (1184): This is a good
story. Little Benedict was a pious lad, thoughtful beyond his years, and
reflected much on the perils of crossing the Rhone. One day, during an
eclipse of the sun, he heard a voice which addressed him three times,
bidding him to build a bridge over the Rhone. The construction and
repair of bridges was regarded as a work of mercy, for which rich men
were often urged to make provisions in their wills. But Little Benedict
was only an ignorant, undersized youth, without experience, influence or
money. But he did not hesitate, he went for it and listened to the call.
The little lad went to the Bishop of Avignon to ask for help. Benedict,
after performing a few miracles, received approval from the bishop to
build a stone bridge over the Rhone. For seven years Little Benedict
directed the operations, and when he died in 1184, although the bridge
was not yet complete, the main difficulties of the enterprise had been
overcome. His body was buried upon the bridge itself. The wonders which
attended the construction of the bridge from the moment of the laying of
the foundations and the miracles wrought at Little Benedict's tomb
induced the city fathers to build a chapel on the bridge. There the tomb
of Little Benedict remained until 1669 when part of the bridge was
washed away. The coffin was rescued and when it was opened the body was
incorrupt. It was afterwards translated to the church of the Celestine
monks. The Order of Bridge Brothers regarded Little Benedict as their
founder. 

Peter Gonzalez, Dominican friar (1246) 

John, Antony and Eustace, martyrs (1342) 

Lydwina of Schiedam, virgin (1433): Her saintly life began as a result
ofa skating accident. While skating with a group of children, she collided
with one of her friends. She suffered a broken rib. From that day
sometime in the year 1396 to the day of her death in 1433, she suffered
unbearable pains and illnesses which she perceived as God calling her to
be a victim for the sins of others. (A good example of vicarious
suffering!) 

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Dr Carolyn Muessig
Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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Today, 30 April, is the feast of ... 

Maximus, martyr (250) 

Marian and James, martyrs (259) 

Eutropius, bishop of Saintes, martyr (third century): The story locally
told is that St Eutropius accompanied St Denis to France to share his
apostolic labours. The people of Saintes, to whom he preached, expelled
him from their city, and he went to live in a cell on a neighbouring
rock where he gave himself to prayer and to instructing those who would
listen. Amongst others he converted and baptised was the Roman
governor's daughter, Eustella. When the girl's father discovered that
she was a Christian he drove her from his house, and charged the
butchers of Saintes to slay Eutropius. Eustella found Eutropius dead
with his skull split by an axe, and she buried his remains in his cell. 

Hildegard, matron (783): Charlemagne married Hildegard after his
repudiation of the Lombard princess Hermengard. Hildgard was very
friendly with St Boniface's kinswoman, the abbess Lioba. 

Forannan, abbot (982): The abbey of Waulsort on the Meuse must have been
closely connected with Ireland in its early days, several of its
abbots came to it from that country - St Maccallan, St Cadroc, and St
Forannan. 

Gualfardus or Wolfhard (1127): About the year 1106 there arrived at
Verona a saddler from Augsburg called Wolfhard, who took up his abode in
the city. All that he earned by his trade, apart from what was necessary
for bare subsistence, he gave to the poor, and he led so holy a life
that he was regarded with veneration. Shocked to find himself treated as
a saint, he secretly left Verona to seek a spot where he could serve God
unobserved by people. As a hermit, he lived in a forest on the river
Adige for years until he was recognised by some boatmen whose vessel ran
aground near his hut. The Veronese induced him to return into their
midst and he eventually became a hermit-monk of the Camaldolese priory
of the Holy Redeemer. 

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Department of Theology and Religious Studies
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Bristol BS8 1TB
UK
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>Bernard of Tiron, abbot (1117): One of the all time great wandering
preachers. 

Live and learn, I guess.

I thought he was a hermit.

(And, I recently came across a reference *somewhere* that identified 
Tiron as =La Trappe.  Too lazy and pressed for pre-k'zoo time to check this
out, can anyone confirm that it ain't true? Tiron being a 
Benedictine house in the diocese of Chartres, almost in So. Normandy.)

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Collect of the Week - 43

Dominica in Octavis Paschae (Low Sunday)

If I understand the arrangement of the Sarum Missal correctly, the Mass of
Easter Day was celebrated on the Sundays after Easter.  There was however a
Mass for each Sunday, which was celebrated on the following weekdays.  This
was no doubt in accordance with the prime liturgical directive, to Avoid
Confusion.

For "Dominica in Octavis Paschae" the Missal therefore gives the collect for
Easter Day.  However, it goes on to say,

Missa Dominicalis per hebdomadam dicitur,

"The Sunday Mass is said through the week."  And this is the collect which
is said through the week:

Praesta, quaesumus, omnipotens Deus, ut qui Paschalia festa peregimus, haec,
te largiente, moribus et vita teneamus.  Per Dominum.

Grant, we beseech thee, Almighty God, that we who have passed through the
Paschal feasts may, by thy bounty, hold to these things in our manners and
in our life.  Through the Lord . . .

My own rough-and-ready translation;  the BCP supplies an entirely new
collect, based on 1 Corinthians 5:7,

Almighty Father, who hast given thine only Son to die for our sins, and to
rise again for our justification;  Grant us so to put away the leaven of
malice and wickedness, that we may always serve thee in pureness of living
and truth;  through the merits of the same thy Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

"peregimus" suggests a pilgrimage, a journey the great events of our
salvation.  We have passed through the great celebrations of Holy Week and
Easter.  A journey is passed in time, it is a temporary thing.  But at the
end we have "teneamus" - "we may holy fast to these things" - we pray that
the events of our journey will make a permanent mark on our lives and
conduct.  The two clauses are linked by "te largiente", literally "with you
giving generously".  Whether or not the journey through Easter will make a
permanent effect on our lives is down to God's grace.

Oriens.



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Collect of the Week - 44

Dominica secunda post Pascha.

Deus, qui in Filii tui humilitate jacentem mundum erexisti;  fidelibus tuis
perpetuam concede laetitiam, ut quos perpetuae mortis eripuisti casibus,
gaudiis facias sempiternis perfrui.  Per eundem.

God, who by the humility of your Son has raised up a fallen world;  grant to
your faithful people, perpetual joy, that those whom you have snatched from
the fall of everlasting death, you may make to enjoy everlasting joys.
Through the same.

Again, my own rather rough-and-ready translation.  The world has fallen, and
is so to speak lying down (jacentem).  It is raised up and made to stand
upright (erexisti) by the humility of God's Son.  There are contrasts
between lying down and standing up, between perpetual death and perpetual
joy.  The paradox of being raised up through humility may have been
suggested by the hymn of Philippians 2:6-11, ". . .he was humbler yet, even
to accepting death, death on a cross.  But god raised him high . . ."

Once again, the BCP ignored the Latin collect (I can't imagine why, since it
is a most beautiful and balanced prayer, and contains nothing to which the
reformers could have objected) and composed an entirely new one:

Almighty God, who hast given thine only Son to be unto us both a sacrifice
for sin, and also an ensample of godly life;  give us grace that we may
always most thankfully receive that his inestimable benefit, and also daily
endeavour ourselves to follow the blessed steps of his most holy life;
through the same Jesus Christ our Lord.  Amen.

Oriens.










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