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Eeling wrote in response to below; Thank you Steven , I look fwd to reading your postings in the future. Always, I wd prefers the 'wild' existence as mentioned in Paul Shepard's quote although not 'primal instincts' of the hunter. By 'wild' existence, simply the existence of rapport with mother nature vis-a-vis spreading urbanization and getting all 'wired-up' which I feel is what is 'killing' our spontaneity and the beauty of knowing people, making friends and not having one's total private life in the control of manmade systems. > http://www.du.edu/~sbissell > What we lost with that wild, primal existence > was a way of being for which the era of > agriculture and civilization lacks counterpoise. > Human life is the poorer for it. > Paul Shepard > Bissell here, I'm just beginning to work out all of Paul Shepard's ideas myself. But, I *believe* that the point Shepard makes is that you cannot separate "wild" from "primal existence." In order to understand and live morally in our modern world, we need to embrace our hunter/gatherer past more fully. Shepard felt that the abrupt change from pre-agrarian to agrarian society has created a psychological disconnection with nature. I think Shepard felt that an active ecological role in nature, not the passive appreciation of nature was the way to achieve a "reconnection." And, I think that is the central theme of Aldo Leopold as well. Thanks for your comments. Hope to hear from you again. sb %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%