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Hi cris, actually it *does confuse the issue or could - it's a worthwhile point, more than worthwhile, but I wouldn't want it to cloud billy's point the message i responded to was speaking only of uttered performance it seemed to me whereas to try to integrate you and billy - arrogance on my part perhaps - the object containing, representing, bearing the poem / text of the poem, is the performance or physical manifestation of the performance or the making of it is as well i'n it L ----- Original Message ----- From: cris cheek <[log in to unmask]> To: british-poets <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 06 September 1999 21:47 Subject: RE: intention and design | I'd say that the writing of a poem *is* a performance... | that a poem *is* a performance | just to confuse the issues %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%