Hello David, I don't know what is going on anymore. All this business with fancytalk, balderdash and weasel words --we are back to woodlice here. I remember that it all started because Peter was upset about a review, and said he didn't like it because it was moneyed --then Keston defended the review and questioned this notion of moneyed, I wrote several things, which as per usual are all too conveniently ignored. Harold wrote something too --Keston thought that Campo and LangPo (the Gilbert & Sullivan characters) were different. I wrote a satire on that. Polishing poetry. I don't know --it is a bit like the British and food --if it doesn't move, pour gravy on it. Here it is stones. Stones and geology. Ah the hairline contusions in rocks and stones. I did not think much about both quotes --they seemed to be in the bauble school of writing --the baroques. And David you asked if I was upping the ante. Of course --but they are running scared. I think the review was in all probability better than the samples of poetry I have seen, but perhaps I am in the minority here. Below its just a bunch of guys playing with their rocks --like Edith Sitwell and Amy Lowell. The first few lines of Prynne's 'Red D Gypsum': Now trek inter-plate reversion to earth buy out as waters buried or get carrier up ready put across gypsum branch effaced, as root planed... The first few lines of Coolidge's 'The Tab': mica flask moves layout hasty bunkum geode olive loin candle mines repeating sky hot dregs, in cast... Or the beginning of McCaffery's 'Little Hans': Each sockeye of adulterous claim The prawns which is, which cannot be In I, like others, surds the name Enamel sedge antinomy. and now a stone poem "Stones" you get me s s s so and I am charmed by you s s s so all you do is nothing not quite because even at rest you move and I know s s s so there are forces that draw me to you you get me to write about you little bits of rock and under you there is meaning like blennies in a rock pool flipping silver or the splash of morality from pebbles dropped by the crow down a long necked ewer you get me s s s so. Stephen Pain this afternoon %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%