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hi Keston, carnival is an interesting arena for discourse. I don't know the Goethe and you might enjoy 'Carnival in Romans' by La Durie, which a serious and detailed piece of historical work on a coup and counter coup enacted withint the course of a carnival in the French town of the same name during 1580. I find it a fascinating engagement with the problem of revolts. there's a short and pithy essay of Stallybrass and White 'Bourgeois hysteria and the carnivalesque' that's worth tracking down. You'll find them in cultural studies contexts. love and love cris %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%