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Dear all - At Brunel, students who fail to pass the QTS elements of their degree are awarded a degree with a different title to that of the "with QTS" award. This is to clearly identify from the course title whether or not QTS (ie a CertEd) was awarded. Do other institutions follow a similar practice or do you use the same degree title but not issue the CertEd? Please reply direct to me. I'm happy to put up a summary of responses, if anyone would be interested. Thanks for your help. Liz Liz Woodward Assistant Registrar (Conferments) Brunel University Uxbridge, UB8 3PH DDI: 01895 203283 TEL: 01895 274000 x 2201 FAX: 01895 203167 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%