I'd like to ask for futher clarification of why 1:1 "doesn't work"... In my experience with AMICO data, and (or at least this is what I heard John Perkins say) in the CIMI Testbed, 1:1 was essential for maintaining clarity and integrity in metadata records. We've found in assembling the first AMICO dataset that implied meaning, no matter how clear within an insitution gets lost as soon as data moves into an inter-institutional environment. Explicit metadata is the only way to make things unambiguous. The way I see it, 1:1 is just a case of describing the 'object in hand'. And since there isn't a way of linking repeating elements in DC, it is also the only way to ensure that records make logical sense. There was talk at DC 6 about "embedding" metadata from one record within another. I'm struggling to understand this, because I can't see how it differs from 1:1, and would like to speak with an example. I'm using the Mummy that John borrowed at the DC6 meeting -- that image can be found at http://www.amico.net/docs/dataspec.final3.shtml I'm running fast and loose without any qualifiers, and as a result have had to force the Art Institute of Chicago into being a Publisher. ... "I want my DCQ" ID: AIC_.1910.238 Creator: Egyptian, Possibly from Thebes Title: Mummy Case of Paankhenamun Date: Third Intermediate Period Dynasty 22 (c. 945 - 715 BC) Type: Physical Object Type: Sarcophagus Format: cartonnage mummy case with mummy inside h. 67 in (170 cm) w. 17 in (43 cm) d (12 1/2 in) (31.7 cm) Cartonnage (gum, linen and papyrus), gold leaf, pigment Publisher: The Art Institute of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois [ALTERNATELY Relation: IsOwnedBy] Relation: HasFormat AIC_.E22827.TIF ID: AIC_.E22827.TIF Creator: The Art Institute of Chicago Title: front view Date: 1998 Type: image Type: reproduction Format: TIFF Format: RGB Format: 331 x 768 pixels Format: 745 K Format: uncompressed Relation: IsFormatOf AIC_.1910.238 Publisher: The Art Museum Image Consortium Rights: Copyright The Art Institute of Chicago, 1998 I've got two DC records here, each describing a thing {the digital image or the original sarcophagus). I could (and we have) continued to create other DC records for other versions of images (thumbnails, partial screen views, etc.), or other images, like details of the top of the head, or x-rays, or CAT Scans. We can reassemble these records in ways that look a lot like MARC records with "nested" 856 <?> fields (as in the AVIADOR project at Columbia) by displaying the fields in the DC image record "under" the title of the original object. But I can't merge the records without losing the logical distinction about what is the TIF file, and what is the sarcophagus. Right? Thanks. jennifer (if you want to see the full AMICO record for the Sarcophagus, it's at http://www.amico.net/library/3.shtml) __________ J. Trant [log in to unmask] Partner & Principal Consultant phone: +1 412 422 8530 Archives & Museum Informatics fax: +1 412 422 8594 2008 Murray Ave, Suite D http://www.archimuse.com Pittsburgh, PA 15217 __________