We have to make a distinction : Latry is for God, Duly for the saints. Mary has a special type of devotion, hyperduly: above the saints, of course, but, anyhow, under God (just under).And that's the question. Can we pray Mary ? and in the Middle Ages ? C.G. Durand, in "l'Imaginaire de la Renaissance", has put into relief the anthropological concept of "Dieu-la-fille", "God-the-Daughter". Mary is altogether mother and daughter, and wife (remember te Canticus canticorum), so close to God that the prayer is not impossible, but "shared"... Of course, in strict terms of theology, we've not to pray Mary. But the religious Gautier de Coinci writes (5 times) : Bele douce dame Mere Dieu, aiez merci Merci, merci, merci De ma chaitive ame (Ich 7, ed Koenig t. 1, TLF, Droz 1966, p. 40) *************************************** no cantefable prent fin n'en sai plus dire ************************************** Denis Hue Universite de Rennes 2 [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%