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At 08:36 AM 9/25/98 -0400, you wrote: >One suggestion: the Ave Maria is NOT a prayer; it's a salutation. We pray >to God alone. Thus 'Amen" doesn't belong at the end of it. Pardon >Tillingahst > A theological technicality. Medieval Catholics "prayed" to saints the way most people "pray" to God: to ask for something. Those of us who were formed in Catholicism through the 1960s "prayed" to saints, sometimes more often (and more "successfully") than to God (e.g. "Dear Saint Anthony please come 'round; something's lost and can't be found"). Thomas Long, Ph.D. [log in to unmask] Visit the Thomas Long/vade mecum-- http://users.visi.net/~longt An Insouciant Web Page for Flagrant Intellectuals Who Are Curious About: literature | gender & queer-cultures | on-line-instruction | teaching-excellence | AIDS & American-apocalypticism | religion-and-culture | technical-communication | world-cultures | women's-literature %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%