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Bill East's message reminds me of a few question I meant to propound to you all. This past Sunday (14th After Pentecost N.S; 13th After Trinity, Trad.) my church, which uses the Revised Common Lectionary, had the 'Stir up' collect. It seems to me that this collect used to be associated with a Sunday later in the Trinity season and also that I have dim memories of it being a traditional day to finish making Christmas puddings and store them with rum or brandy to age for the holiday meal (I suppose because you needed to 'stir up' the heavy batter!). Now my frivolous questions (one of which I could answer by looking at the BCP but it is at home and I am not) are 1) which Sunday used to be 'Stir up' Sunday? 2) Is this a translation of a mediaeval collect? and 3) Is the pudding tradition old, or merely Victorian? Abigail Records of Early English Drama/ Victoria College/ 150 Charles Street W Toronto Ontario Canada Phone (416) 585-4504/FAX (416) [log in to unmask] http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed.html => REED's home page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/reed-l.html => REED-L's home page http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~reed/stage.html => our theatre resource page %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%