George, I agree that we should not give an overly enthusiastic and lengthy set of replies to someone who joins and asks a basic question unless we can ascertain exactly what the person's needs and interests are. In this case, we did ask Mr. Renihan for more details and he replied promptly. We then had a chorus of voices and an extended exposition in reply, to which Mr. Renihan said nothing (at least on the list). Stepping in when you did--with the news that the student had left--is appropriate but not belated. I have, in fact, seen worse (many times) on other lists: simple queries seeking to get expert research quickly and with minimum effort and no discussion. ON THE OTHER HAND: I really really want to hear Part 6 from Bill East! And any other parts. I was on the verge of trying to find the set of responses from Bill and others in the archives to use in my classes, where I often have students with the same view of medieval religion as Mr. Renihan. I must say that the responses to this query have been the most polite, gentle, interesting, and instructive that I have ever seen in a scholarly discussion group. So, Bill, would you mind indulging me a bit further as a surrogate for Mr. Renihan? I am not asking for new replies, but just the finishing bits of whatever you have begun. Thanks. Karen Jolly -- Dr. Karen Jolly Associate Professor, History University of Hawai`i at Manoa [log in to unmask] http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kjolly %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%