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On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Stan Metheny wrote: > As further indication of your birth/death link here, also common was the > linking of the wood of the manger with the wood of the cross. > [Fortunatus develops the re-birth of creation through the death on the > cross theme further in his _Salve Dies_ poem/hymn/sequence.] BTW, wood > of the Cross theme has common links to --i.a.-- Eden (tree of life), > Ark, Throne, Temple, Manger, Gate (Jerusalem, heaven). In my work, I haven't run across the connection of manger and cross. Could you supply other references for commentators who made this connection? If this is not of general interest to the group, please reply privately. Regards, Clint Clinton Atchley University of Washington [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%