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-----Original Message----- From: Bryan Hyden <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 1:53 PM Subject: Re: FW: Peter Singer - An Interview >>Saying reciprocal altruism is not real altruism because the giver >(potentially) >>gets something out of it, is a lot like saying we are all egoists because >>everything we do we we do because we want to do it. > >yes wayne, that's it.... thanks.... > >bryan That's why Trivers, Williams and other evolutionary biologists defined altruism as a risking reproductive potential with no immediate reward. They avoid all this sb %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%