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Cris's post was interseting on the Poetry Review. This is kind of by the way and has nothing to do with the core issue at stake, but I am concerned with the mention (by EM) of William Glock. What Glock actually achieved at the BBC was the total hegemony of the post-Schoenberg and -Webern line to the almost total exclusion of contrary points of view. I enjoyed many of the programs that he sponsored, but regret the predigested view of history that I was forced to imbibe. Took me years to find out that other things were going on that might have had validity ... Tony %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%