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Lawrence mistakes the meaning of "attack" in my message. By "attack" I meant "attack on prosody, on poetic subject matter, attack in fact on the whole job of living a poet-life". I am utterly, utterly uninterested in "attack" defined as intervention in or creation of small-scale British poetry internecine wars and I only hope that other listees share my distaste, as Lawrence seems to. For example, if Duncan's often too abrasive criticism has made any literary opponents out there, I would find this as tiresome as the abrasive tone in question. Andrew has to write out of his own personality -- we all do -- that's the risk of the whole thing if, like him, you are trying to be honest. I am not in poetry just to like other poets: things are more serious, more broad than that. Andrew, as far as I know, is no ally of mine but the quality of his work jumps out of the page. Yours amicably Doug %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%