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My last word on Ginsberg, I'll give to Gerry Gilbert, extant Vancouver zen-beat-poet-cyclist-broadcaster-publisher (who played the whole of Engaged recently on his radiofreerainforest) from BC Monthly #48, aka Poem Booooooooooooook: "the 1st session of the '63 poetry conference here a woman meekly asked for help understanding & a guy replied there isn't time to catch her up on her reading & fuck you was your answer to him the shortest poem in the language right on time which i shoulda cited in newcastle-upon-tyne when you read your life work & basil asked if you'd written anything shorter" Pete. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%