>What about a small press anthology of the really younger poets from both sides of the Atlantic? A generous set of inclusions, as little limited by genre as poetry politics will allow, and a partner to the Talisman, which is surely a forerunner of much to come? This seems like a good idea to me, and would I'm sure be pretty influential were anybody able to deliver the readies -- anyone? The Talisman book is a good one, I agree with Doug that certain omissions do glare somewhat and that it's no great matter to list them, but would add quickly a couple of things: 1. Douglas Rothschild? 2. The editorial process was: of the three editors, at least TWO must have approved every included writer. This led certain excluded writers to speculate re: who said no, though of course anonymity was afforded every decision. I suppose the group decision system is a fair one, provided the three sets of interests represented are not too flammably disparate or cohesive - maybe a similar system would work for the proposed anthology of youngsters? I does strike me that the Talisman book is a good example of what I attempted to hint at -- using, perhaps, awkwardly provocative terms -- when I mentioned a latent nationalism in US work; this is an anthology of young american writers, or, more accurately, of Young (American) Writers (as the cover says, as if their Americanness were in every case merely accidental, or not essentially relevant to the fact of their inclusion) -- why did it not occur to the editors to include writers of other nationalities? For several reasons, I think: this book seems aimed at a competition with previous anthologies of American work, seeking to determine its own significance and the significance of those it represents in a tacit rejection of those older books. Rosmarie Waldrop even hints at this, on the back cover. English or Scottish poetry (eg) would, amid the exigencies of this objective, seem of pretty marginal interest. Q: Why would a British editor not feel this way, on the whole? Secondly, the editors know the contibutors very well, and do not know what is going on in Britain (at least, I cannot speak for Leonard Schwarz). British poetry is almost completely unknown here, I'd venture to say; people have heard names, are interested in hearing why they have heard them, but when does this go further? As well as some kind of anthology, it might be worthwhile to organize a conference - in London maybe? - at which people could meet and develop reasons for pursuing what are at present quite nominal curiosities. I'd be happy to work at this, to invite people from here and promote the event here, were anyone interested in helping -- Doug: would you consider editing such an anthology? You would seem to be the perfect candidate, having so thorough and broad an understanding of what's going on in both places? Or, you could be one editor of three? Can we turn some of this discussion into a BOOK? back soon (wednesday), k %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%