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Yes, but there are different ways of thinking about the conservates/labour also, the point is, there is an established and actual process of communicative social behaviour which, as a co-ordinating frame of action, determines (and allows oneself to engage in determining) that differences between objects of thought are evaluated differences, whether we like it or not; it is not radically evasive to choose to believe that the recognition of differences between commodities, is somehow diffusely analogous to a liberal permissiveness: the shit designed to get sold still gets sold, the work hoping to be effective still is less so than it ought to be. Values are things to be attained to, I think. Not to be stigmatized. Do you read SA differently because he is worse? Is the fuss over Soares largely because he considers it useful to dislike writers and aspects of writings? Is discriminatory criticism merely an exercise for those who do not derive from the class representing 'high' art? Why should it be an 'exercise'? I am not talking about people. But about commodities. To make the leap is a demand for faith that I find pretty insidious. Anyhow. What was all the Andrew Motion row about then? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%