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Listees might be interested in Baudrillard's 'Paroxysm' from Verso. Yes., he's a bit of a 'O my god I think I am becoming Nietzsche' pretentious pain but he does have some interesting things to say about the emptying out and/or leaking of values at the millennium. Or maybe I should just say: New Labour! Cheers me dears David %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%