Jordan's email of yesterday on this topic once again proves the theory of simultaneous invention, plus, of course, that great minds think alike! I hope there is time in Helsinki to address this matter. I realize and appreciate all the thought and work that has gone into the ResourceType draft, and it seems to me that we still need to work on this more. (Yes, I'm willing to help, not just stand off in a corner and make rude remarks :-) I. The September 23, 1997, "Dublin Core Metadata Element Set: Reference Description" defines Resource Type as, "The category of the resource, such as home page, novel, poem, working paper, technical report, essay, dictionary." It refers the reader to http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Metadata/types.html for the draft. The "Dublin Core Resource Types : Structuralist Draft, July 24, 1997" (printed out here September 25, 1997) states in the first full paragraph, second line, that, "This element is to describe the genre of the item being described," and lists the top-level Resource Types as: text; image; sound; software; data; and interactive. "Genre" is often taken to mean referring to the intellectual content of the item, as contrasted to its physical form. For example, "novel" is a genre term in that a novel can appear printed on a piece of paper, on microform, or in digital form on someone's computer screen - it is still a novel, and only the physical form (the carrier of the information) has changed. ***Is this what it is intended to mean here?*** This key point needs to be decided before we proceed. II. I have held off on sending this email because thesaurus-building is not my specialty; I just did not feel comfortable about the list, and having just gone through a substantial amount of committee work in building a list of form/genre terms for geospatial information, I figured that I knew only enough to hunt up someone who specializes in this work before I said anything. I have the good fortune to work with a person - Linda Hill ([log in to unmask]) - who has worked with indexes, abstracts, and thesauri for some years. After looking at the list of Resource Types in the Structuralist Draft, she has contributed the following points, plus an appendix that is explained later in this section. If we are going to develop a short list of terms that will assist persons, it would be a good idea to build it following the thesaurus guidelines available from ANSI/NISO and ISO. Some of the following specific principles can be found there. a. Resource Type terms should be nouns, not adjectives; e.g., "interactive" would need to be changed to "interactive items" or something like that. b. Terms should stand on their own and be understandable when they are used as descriptors - that is, their meaning should not be dependent on seeing them within the hierarchy of the scheme. Therefore, a term like "executable" under "software" should instead be "executable software". c. The choice of singular vs. plural forms of the terms is debatable and either could be used. However, the ANSI/NISO Z39.19 standard calls for "count nouns" to be expressed as plurals ("names of objects or concepts that are subject to the question 'how many?' but not 'how much?'). Also, if the primary purpose of the Resource Type terms is for searching, seachers are more likely to think in terms of plurals rather then singular. It is generally only at the cataloging time when there is one object to be described that the singular term is the most likely form to use. d. There are shallow and deep hierarchies, and arguments on both sides as to which is better. The limited number of top-level nodes and an orderly grouping under them are more effective tools for use by the general public. e. The use of cross references (1) from nearly synonymous terms for the same sort of thing and (2) between related terms in the thesaurus of terms is essential for a useable tool. f. The relationship between a broad term and a narrow term should be kept strictly an "is a" relationship - that is, a genus/species relationship. It should always be true that a term "is" also truely its broader term - so that if the broader term were also apply as a descriptor to an item, it would also be true. g. It is difficult to keep the Resource Type list free of the closely related set of terms that describe how an item IS AVAILABLE. A "homepage" is a method of presentation and does not belong in this list. What the Web page has on it - what it IS - is what would be described by this set of terms. The cataloging world has found that keeping genre and carrier terms in separate lists is extremely difficult, and has in effect shoved them together in a USMARC field (REBECCA - have I correctly presented this?). If we decide to have both genre and carrier terms in one list, fine; but we need to define ResourceType to cover both. h. The notion of creating stand-alone terms by concatenating the hierarchy (e.g., "image.interactive") is not a good idea because (1) the resulting terms are not familiar and (2) it forces users to know the hierarchical structure of the terminology. i. With a hierarchical structure of terms, it is not necessary to list every possible genre form because: (1) if a specific term is not listed for an item, a term that is higher in the tree can be used instead; and (2) thesauri are expandable - more terms can be added for local purposes or the 'main' authoritative set can be expanded through time, as long as the basic structure accommodates all anticipated categories of terms. What follows in an appendix is the hierarchical listing of a draft Resource Type thesaurus Linda Hill has been working on. It is not complete; there is enough of it to give a general outline. This listing shows only the valid terms and their hierarchical relationships - not the invalid (synonymous terms or the Related Term links). Linda would be happy to put the draft thesaurus up as an html document so we DC persons can explore all of the terms. If this approach to structure is accepted, the details of the terms and relationships can be the focus of discussion. III. As I noted above, what led me to talk with Linda Hill about this matter was that I could tell that a great deal of thought and hard work had gone into the "Structuralist Draft," and yet from the point of view of spatial data and my years of experience of cataloging, there were points that did not seem to follow. Some specific examples follow: - Almost everything is "data" at some level, so while I see what is being aimed toward, this is not a good category. - The list of "text" items does not all seem to be at the same level, nor does it list all possibilities at a level. If one has "dictionaries," then one must also have "encyclopedias," and so on. - In compiling a list like this, it would be extremely helpful to have a printout of the Library of Congress's list of what are called free-floating subdivisions for subject headings (REBECCA, please correct me if I have that name wrong) - it's a list of subdivisions (e.g., "Maps," and so on) that may be used with almost any thematic subject (e.g., "Geology", "Housing", etc.). My geospatial-data form/genre group used this, and found it saved us time and assisted us in constructing a logical structure. - Strictly from the viewpoint of spatial data - this list creates 2 possible places to put spatial data, since large amounts of it is remote-sensing images (e.g., aerial photographs) - yet "spatial data" is listed in only one location. Mary Larsgaard Alexandria Digital Library/Davidson Library University of California Santa Barbara ------ APPENDIX RESOURCE TYPE TERMS - DRAFT THESAURUS FROM ALEXANDRIA DIGITAL LIBRARY (L. Hill) cartographic works . atlases . maps collections . archives . catalogs datasets . survey data events images . art works . . art originals . . art prints . . art reproductions . graphic materials . motion pictures . photographs . . aerial photographs . . photographs from space . remote-sensing images . . aerial photographs individuals . experts multimedia packages musical works organizations projects recordings . sound recordings . video recordings services . interactive services . . chat services . . discussion lists . . games . . news groups . reference services . . cataloging rules . . classification systems . . dictionaries . . directories . . gazetteers (place names dictionaries) . . metadata standards . . subject heading lists . . thesauri software packages textual works . abstracts . articles . bibliographies . biographies . . autobiographies . conference papers . correspondence . fictional works . . dramatic works . . poems . monographs . . monographic series . proceedings . reports . serial works . . journals . . magazines . . newsletters . . newspapers . theses