Christopher I feel the same as you, but being on the fringes of geographical life I have no ideas how to make the group more critical. However I thought I would write to give my support to your contention. Rob ---------- From: [log in to unmask][SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 17 September 1997 19:11 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Death of the critical? Here's a thought for you. The first year or so of the life of the crit-geog-forum discussion group was pretty lively with many members engaging in critical debates. I would say that this fertile period was fuelled primarily by two issues: (1) the meaning(s) of "critical" as in critical geography; and especially (2) the IBG-RGS /Shell issue. Since then, contributions of a critical nature have become intermittent and of no great volume. With 373 members on the list at present - and if the point above is valid - why should this be so? Some thoughts that occur to me incude: (i) It could be that all such groups (including real - as opposed to virtual - groups) go through cycles of activity, so another burst of intellectual activity will come along in due course; (ii) That the raison d'etre of crit-geog-forum was essentially the Shell issue and it has no longer a function as a CRITICAL geography forum. If the second is the case, then the honest thing would be to abandon the 'critical' component in the title and to 're-launch' the group as a more general 'human geography billboard'. This would open the group to members possibly put off by the present title. Part of me says that we should consider this option, whilst another part of me remembers the reason why I joined in the first place - that there was a need for open and broad critical geography debates (and yet I too have been largely non-participatory). Does any of this make sense? Any comments? Christopher Ray Newcastle %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%