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Ian many thanks for the info re the data base, most valuable. At the same time the same person Prof Norman Coombs runs a very super course Called 'Adapt it' via the internet/easi net. I can highly recommend the workshop (3 weeks! $150.00) next one is in April and cheap at twice the price. E.A. will join me in the above sentiments. Alan. Alan Muller Able Centre Middlesex University Queensway, Enfield EN3 4SF TEL: 0181 362 5366 EMAIL: [log in to unmask] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%