Stride announce the publication of Peter Finch's new book ANTIBODIES this week. meaty 128pp paperback, 7.95 pounds, post free from Stride, 11 sylvan rd, exeter, devon ex4 6ew [USA? 15 dollar bills will get one mailed to you (no checks!)] glad Peter's workshop/reading was so good. Rupert %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Received: from mailgate1.uea.ac.uk (mailgate1.uea.ac.uk [139.222.230.1]) by naga.mailbase.ac.uk (8.8.x/Mailbase) with ESMTP id KAA03231; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:46:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from cpca3.uea.ac.uk by mailgate1.uea.ac.uk with SMTP (PP UEA); Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:44:57 +0100 Received: from cpc187.cpc.uea.ac.uk by cpca3.uea.ac.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/29Jun95-0305PM) id AA11901; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:44:28 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:53:08 BST From: Ira Lightman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Clark Coolidge/ lyric language To: [log in to unmask] Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-List: [log in to unmask] X-Unsub: To leave, send text 'leave british-poets' to [log in to unmask] Reply-To: Ira Lightman <[log in to unmask]> Sender: [log in to unmask] Precedence: list Hallo everyone, I'm a new bug Can I offer some thoughts on Clark Coolidge's Book of During's use of "extreme sex words" in mantra repetition, attached to other sentences not using extreme sex words (like the Cantos and quotations from non-English languages, the Book of During is known for them tho they make but 10 to 20 percent of all the words in the book)? I'm copying these from a mail I first wrote to Tim Atkins: hypotheses: the extreme sex words, cock, cunt, fuck, tend to be used to signify the first time with a new person, eg more predominantly used like that by B. Mayer in her life of sudden crushes on folk, and then poems and books about relationships, because they are about love, tend to use more soothing or euphemistic or anatomical terms. Yet typically for Coolidge, I think Book of During (which I think is about a long relationship, lots of sex with the person you love, know, trust) jumbles it all up, says it is still possible to have that "I don't know you" virginal self-consciousness in mid-relationship, asks what love is, what do you cross over into, is across a bridge that burns behind you, does your culture burn it behind you and you accede when you could resist, make your own convention etc. Or anyway it's a good formalist exercise in changing the feel of an essentially *lyric* term, ie you must use it only in poems about present-moment sensation, fragmentary feeling, an aspect of experience (ie the sex in a love relationship) - the repetition of it feels as sickly as most other lyric terms (love, rose, heart, lightning, kiss) yet Coolidge pushes that through, like one of his masters Stein does "a rose is a rose is a rose"... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%