First, thanks to Karlien, and Randolph & Cris - and any others who I've inadvertently failed to credit in this important thread, which slips into the fabric at a very good point. I remember Bunting talking about the "music of the body" when I was a music student in Newcastle - the rhythms the body makes when walking, riding, lying still, the vibrations & tones therein. That you might filter it into music, or poetry, indeed you should try to (Bunting came from a generation which issued prescriptions, and his seem no worse than anyone elses). It struck a chord (o, damn, you know what I mean) with me - the musics I like / respond to remain those which I can physically relate to. The actual contact of sung or bowed music... ... or the stamp of feet through a landscape. On my homemade Beaufort scale for engagement w/ landscape, if "click" is potentially a low point, then "tread" is several points higher, more engaged, and represents the point in the pastoral model where rural/urban as distinctions decrease in significance. Of course, it's not just feet - it's breathing, listening - all the other points which tell you where you are. As a maker of things, it's that kind of responding which is more than seldom part of what I want to do. It's not about "authenticity" - I relate it to the Zukofsky thing: "moved/by the intimacy of one response" (? quoted away from source). I could live with pastoral growing from a kind of heightened, engaged version of landscape. Also quoted in absentia, responding to Peter's nudge re Gilbert White: White's statement to the effect that that piece of ground yields most which is most studied. "Study" is not the same as "tread", and can be a process at several removes. For all his charm, and his "hands-on-ness", White was a Gent, external to many of the processes which fascinated him. But I guess I admire it, at heart, all the same. You don't *have* to be part of what you write, but there are those who are, and do, and it shines through. Long message hopefully makes some sense to some. ___________________________________________________________ Richard Caddel Durham University Library, Stockton Rd., Durham DH1 3LY, UK E-mail: R.I.Caddel @ durham.ac.uk Phone: +44 (0)191 374 3044 Fax: +44 (0)191 374 7481 WWW: http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dul0ric "Words! Pens are too light. Take a chisel to write." - Basil Bunting ___________________________________________________________ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%