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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 16:56:07 BST To: cris cheek <[log in to unmask]> Cc: [log in to unmask] Priority: Normal Subject: Re: "70's" type art/music/poetry now? From: Ira Lightman <[log in to unmask]> Reply-to: Ira Lightman <[log in to unmask]> Ira wrote: "This poetry in the "wordless" is one of the things I always look for in art, and don't find in a lot of BritArt..." I believe I know what you mean, Ira, and I agree with the sentiment, but my point, to which you were responding, can`t let me subscribe (yet) to the terms you use... You had talked about music, which has a syntax and therefore could be regarded as "like poetry" (similar to, but not) - then you seem to conflate music and visual arts under the rubric "wordless" as if painting too has its "poetry" [this could be true, I`m willing to be convinced, but I can`t bring myself to say it, out of respect for painting]."Poetry IN the `wordless`", you reach in and find it, given. What about poetry AT or TO or AGAINST the wordless, where face-to-canvas with the mute object you`re talking to yourself again? robin %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%